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The 4Runner is at 30K and due for an oil change.
Of course the dealership is offering a whole list of "Preferred Service" options including:

Front & Rear differential fluid exchange
Brake fluid exchange
Transfer case fluid exchange
Fuel injector service

Keeping in mind that I do intend to keep the vehicle for as long as possible, are any of these necessary or beneficial at 30K?
 
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I could be wrong, but 30k seems premature for some of those?
Also, probably significantly cheaper to DIY the fluids. Unless it's a complementary service.




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Oil and filter, rotate tires, drive on.
 
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Diff fluid: maybe, if you do serious off-roading and especially go in deep water. Otherwise, too early.

Brake fluid: beneficial, but too early.

Transfer case: see diff fluid.

Fuel injection service: unless it has gasoline direct injection, not necessary.

Check the maintenance schedule in the owner's manual. I doubt if it calls for any of these things yet, or at all, unless you meet the definition of "severe" service.
 
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are any of these necessary or beneficial at 30K?

IMO, marginally beneficial but not necessary.

I didn't do the Front & Rear differential fluid exchange and Transfer case fluid exchange until around 100K and it didn't look too bad.

Add a bottle of Techron or Lucas fuel injector cleaner every now and then.



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What I've noticed is that dealerships advocate for more frequent fluid change than is prescribed by the manufacturer.

30K for brake fluid and differential fluid change? Why?

Politely decline.


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When the differentials and transfer case are assembled, there is a possibility of machining material left inside. There is also some break in wear.
30k miles would be a good time to change it, if you're not off roading or crossing water, I wouldn't change them again until 100k or so.
No on the injector cleaning if you're using top tier fuel.
Brake fluid is hard to say, it will usually start getting a dark color.
 
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Possibly brake fluid but I think that’s a bit premature. Axles and transfer case, off roading a lot or severe usage aka towing I’d say at 50k.

Injector flush, nope not as long as there is no performance or driveability issues.

And fluid exchange is a fancy description of drain and refill. The only time I’ve heard of that term being used was by a third party flush kit company that used that description in conjunction with their power flushing equipment as used with their transmission services. And those I definitely say run away from.


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What does Toyota suggest in the owners manual for those service intervals.
 
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It's a bit vague. There is no maintenance schedule in the Owner's Manual proper, it is in a separate Warranty & Maintenance Guide. It calls for inspection of differential and transfer case oil at 30K under normal driving conditions. Unless I missed it, the Guide does not specify changing out the oil through 120K(?).
 
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None of those additional 'services' are necessary at your current mileage. Leaving things alone mitigates the possibility of human error...which is rampant.
 
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I would schedule exactly what the manual states is required as normal maintenance and warranty compliance, the preferred sounds like it goes a bit past that, which ever makes you more comfortable.

There would be nothing wrong with doing the preferred services, certainly would not hurt anything to do them.
 
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Have the same 2019 4runner, S5.
42,000.
Use that BG 444 once and awhile and never worry about injectors. It works.
Towed a trailer across the country and back, so I did the differential and cases. They were dirty. Same with transfer case.
Not even close on brake pad wear so I'll do fluid when that happens.
 
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Of the things listed, the brake fluid is the closest to needing replacing. I change brake fluid every 5 years. The rest of the items listed I do based on mileage unless I screw up at the boat ramp and dunk the differential. Fortunately, I’ve avoided that so far.
 
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I recently bought a 2020 Ford Escape from a large Ford dealer. It was a CPO, and allegedly had a full service prior to delivery. This was a couple months ago, and I have put significantly less than 1,000 miles. I just received an email from the service department at that dealer, urging me to bring the car in for service:
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I did my front/rear diff and transfer case a few months back. I was NOT paying Toyota what they wanted for it. It's VERY easy and a fraction of what toyota wanted.

With that said, my 4Runner had about 90k on the ODO. My rear diff had a ton of shards on the magnet, the front diff and transfer case oil looked to be in very good condition.




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Originally posted by MRBTX:
Oil and filter, rotate tires, drive on.


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Ask that dealership about their “wallet flush”.
 
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What's the owner's manual say? Dealerships will sometimes give short intervals than what the manufacturer set.

Brake fluid is usually recommended every three years since it's hygroscopic. I used to never worry about changing brake fluid until about that but the last 10 ago. With the antilock systems and everything else it's cheap maintenance but I do it myself.

Some differentials use the break-in fluid and should be changed early. My Honda called for the rear diff to be changed at 12000(I think but something early). After the first change, it goes to a much longer interval.

I would follow the manual.


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FWIW I’ve never changed brake fluid on any car. I’ve owned at least 4 cars with ending mileage at close to 200K and never had a brake issue.




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