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Two wanted men found painted and tied to bench in Ireland.

Two men wanted by police were tied to a bench by vigilantes and covered in paint.

James White, 48 and Alexis Guesto, 26, were also kicked and beaten with iron bars after being captured in County Armagh in Northern Ireland.

Photos and videos of the pair with their hands bound behind their backs were shared on social media, with one Twitter user declaring "Welcome to bandit country".

The Police Service of Northern Ireland are now investigating what they described as "a serious assault" in the village of Mullaghbawn.

Detective Chief Inspector Jill Duffie said: "Unfortunately, now, due to the violent actions of a small number of people, we have had to redirect resources and efforts towards investigating a serious assault.

"There is no excuse for individuals taking the law into their own hands nor for the violent scenes that we witnessed last night.”

A PSNI spokesman confirmed that both men were wanted for breaching the terms of their licences and warrants.

The search for White and Guesto first began two weeks ago after it was reported that they were in County Limerick and County Cork in the Republic of Ireland.

a man posing for the camera: wanted-guesto-white.jpg © Provided by Independent Digital News & Media Limited wanted-guesto-white.jpg Sightings of the pair in County Tipperary on 17 April were said to have spread panic and fear among local villagers.

Guesto was arrested later the same day but was released on bail.

On Friday the PSNI Public Protection Branch said it was believed the two men had travelled to Northern Ireland.

Detectives appealed for information about their movements after seizing a blue Peugeot from a car park in Mullaghbawn but did not give details of their offences for fear of arousing emotions in the local community.

Last night police were called to reports of an assault in the village and found the two men tied to a bench.

“We believe the two men, James White and Alexis Guesto, who were wanted by police for a range of offences, including breach of licence and warrants, were discovered by a group of males on Saturday evening as they attempted to evade an ongoing police search for them," said DCI Duffie.

"White and Guesto were kicked and beaten with iron bars before being taken to Mullaghbawn village, where they were further assaulted by a number of individuals and covered in paint.

“Both men were taken to hospital by police, one of the males has been arrested and the other remains in hospital being treated for his injuries. Both men will be brought before the court at the earliest opportunity in relation to the matters for which they were being sought."

RMD

Paint? Why not tar and feathers?

Outlaw. Outside the law. Why has this concept been forgotten?

Hmm, maybe if they cracked down on their criminals the same way they like to crack down on the victims of those criminals, the citizenry wouldn’t feel compelled to do the coppers jobs...

Cautionary tale for what's coming to a zip code near you. If people can no longer rely on government to provide order, they'll take matters into their own hands and attempt it themselves. And paint and beatings are only a start...

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breaching the terms of their licences and warrants.

What the hell does this mean? Is it a real crime, or only if you're in Blighty?

Typical liberal, progressive crap....make the criminal the victim. I am not surprised at all.

This shit is why Sharia Law takes hold. People will seek law in a lawless land.

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breaching the terms of their licences and warrants.

What the hell does this mean? Is it a real crime, or only if you're in Blighty?

I’d like to know this too. Are they a few days late on their taxes or did they murder someone and have skipped bail?

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Originally posted by onegeek:
Outlaw. Outside the law. Why has this concept been forgotten?

I originally posted this in the Alfie Evans thread:

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Our rights come from God not government. So the question is, are parent’s rights Fundamental or non-Fundamental? Do we have a fundamental right to teach, raise, and nurture our children or don’t we?

My rights come from God not government. I actually believe that. But.... not everyone does anymore. It's become a controversial statement.

Once 51% of the population accepts the siren song of socialism, rights become whatever the government determines to be "in the common good" . In other words, there are no more individual rights recognized by a socialist country.

If I find myself living in a socialist country, I will still know that my rights come from God not government, but that the government has become illegitimate. At that point, revolution becomes my obligation.

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"There is no excuse for individuals taking the law into their own hands..."

You are so very wrong.

^^^ ain't that the truth ^^^

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Cautionary tale for what's coming to a zip code near you. If people can no longer rely on government to provide order, they'll take matters into their own hands and attempt it themselves. And paint and beatings are only a start...

^^^Yup, I believe bigdeal is speaking for the masses on this one.

Justice is one of the oldest concepts in literature and is interlaced throughout the Old Testament (OT). Here are 3 examples:

Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. Exodus 21:24-25

Justice, and only justice, you shall follow, that you may live and inherit the land that the Lord your God is giving you. Deuteronomy 16:20

Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause. Isaiah 1:17

Vigilantism sounds great, but most of the time justice is found in conjunction with righteousness (OT definition of life in conformity to a known standard or law thus honesty, legality, etc). Pretty hard to say that vigilanty justice is conforming to the definition of being righteous. Here are 3 OT examples:

For I have chosen him, that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and justice, so that the Lord may bring to Abraham what he has promised him.” Genesis 18:19

“You shall do no injustice in court. You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor. Leviticus 19:15

But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream. Proverbs 21:15

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if the local cops can't or won't do the job, the people have the right to do it themselves

cops are hired help

in this case, those two should be glad it was just paint...perhaps if the cops were more interested in justice, rather than law abiding citizens, the cops wouldn't feel like they're not doing the job they were paid to do

good on the citizens for getting it done

As bigdeal notes, it is coming here, too. The entire concept of voluntary civilization, (as opposed to authoritarian oppression, or defensive tribalism) is that the law applies to everyone, and it is evenly applied.

There has long been a two-tiered system in this country; one for the poor, and one for those who can afford decent private representation. Even that system has worked relatively well, as certainly some public defenders are talented, dedicated and competent, and for those who can afford decent representation the system is certainly predictable, if far from perfect.

We are entering an age, however where there are three tiers; the poor who suffer, the middle class who fight but are sometimes overwhelmed by the resources brought against them, and the new third class, the untouchables; they may be poor, or a special group, or rich, or popular, or politically popular, but the rules simply do not apply to them. Unlike in earlier times, this is because of the political leanings of the prosecuting authority, or the political power of the group, rather than the economic power of the accused.

If it were to occur that the untouchables become commonplace in our jurisprudence, vigilantism will follow. Right now, we are experimenting with the concept of untouchables in the justice system. Washington is awash in untouchables. Certain cities and states have groups or areas of untouchables.

The poor and fucked, and the middle class and burdened, are looking at this development and wondering if it will fully come to pass, or be overtaken by the forces of reason such that we are all again subject to the law mostly equally.

I hope that law prevails, but I am not particularly hopeful. I think there will be a resurgence of vigilantism in this country before the goodness of the system reasserts itself.

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Cautionary tale for what's coming to a zip code near you.

The Supreme Court of the US has already advised on numerous cases that it is NOT the job of any police department to protect ANY citizen. Period.

The search for justice predates the police and court system by many thousands of years. If they can no longer adequately serve their function, then inevitably people will seek it by other means.

The solution to vigilantism is a strong justice system that makes it unnecessary.

If I was the PIO of that agency, my statement would be:
"We are quite concerned that citizens may have assaulted the two men but our investigation has thus far failed to identify those responsible".
Tea time!

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If I was the PIO of that agency, my statement would be:
"We are quite concerned that citizens may have assaulted the two men but our investigation has thus far failed to identify those responsible".
Tea time!

"Will fail." If I was PIO, it would be "Will fail."