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it’s pretty much all of Houston

Just reacting to that bit of nonsense, which is a gross exaggeration. You are awfully touchy.

Even if the guy had a gun, he'd still have lost once it started.

You're not going to out draw a drawn gun, and sure as hell not 3 of them. Even shitty ghetto marksmanship doesn't matter at that range.

Having a "bag gun" or whatever is fanciful in this scenario. If you won't even get to your own handgun, you'll never remotely get a concealed carbine deployed with three drawn guns on you at less than 3 yards.

Seeing the setup in advance is the only real possibility, short of complying, in this particular scenario. Not going to even escape back inside with that revolving door and no other escape route possible.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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it’s pretty much all of Houston

Just reacting to that bit of nonsense, which is a gross exaggeration. You are awfully touchy.

Yeah, we’ll go with that.

Have a good weekend.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
That’s an every day thing around here.

Braced AR and AK pistols all the time. Anything from 9mm to .300 blackout. Usually the handguns are Glocks.

Rarely stolen. With a DA that dismisses everything, it’s easy for criminals to legally obtain guns.

It’s actually quite frightening. I’m outgunned every night.

Chongo be safe and thank you.

If he had been aware, the victim could have shot the person in the white hoodie first. Most likely the other two would have taken off, with or without their accomplice.

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Really not willing to bet my life on "Most likely..."

I bet they have someone on the inside giving them a call to whose leaving when, and with what.

Probably their "Ahnts" car. She will shortly report it stolen. After they come home. Regards 18DAI

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
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Really not willing to bet my life on "Most likely..."

Exactly.

I realize we live in a free society, but meandering aimlessly around the entrance was a tactical error by the victim. It looked like a lack of situational awareness...victim didn't even acknowledge the vehicle until goblins started pouring out.

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Originally posted by Sigfest:
I bet they have someone on the inside giving them a call to whose leaving when, and with what.

Maybe but usually it is not the complicated. Here is the standard list for thieves and robbers in my area:

1. Get fellow shitheads together and steal a car. Maybe one left running at a gas station. Take off the license plates, maybe thrown on a temp tag (stolen too).
2. Hit mall and business parking lots (gyms are very popular too), break in or go through unlocked cars, take anything of value and quite possibly a few pistols and guns. Maybe even skip step 3 and steal a high end performance car or suv.
3. Hit well off residential areas, more stealing stuff and the occasional gun. Steal a couple high end performance cars or suv because the owners stupidly LEAVE the extra key fob IN the car parked on driveway or in the garage with garage door up.
4. Now they are well armed and with nice high performance cars, time for snacks and street robberies. they cruise around looking for targets of opportunity. Hotels are popular as people traveling will have some cash, credit cards, and travelers checks.
5. Day #2; repeat step #4 everywhere.
6. Usually by Day #3 they drop the stolen car (quite possibly after doing a drive by shooting or two, depending on how well armed they are) The Police either recover car full of bullet holes or burned out wreck.
7. Start over with step #1.

I left out one step that most usually do: Post on their Instagram accounts photos of themselves with stolen guns and stolen high performance cars. Yes, that is usually how we catch them. They know the police can't chase them until they get to step #4 and by then their high performance cars leave our barely maintained vehicles in the dust. Usually as soon as they see a hint of a police car or even unmarked car, they take off. "But what about police helicopters?" you ask........In my 32 years of being a civilian LEO, having a helicopter already up flying or even readily available (something under 30 minutes) is rarer than a unicorn shitting gold nuggets.

Then WHEN we do catch them, the local prosecutor will go through legal gymnastics to justify NOT charging them or holding them on a bond. We actually had a lot of success going through the District Federal Attorney;s Office and getting charges. Surprising just after January 20th, we were told that the "store is closed" and it is back to the Obama era rules (no Federal Carjacking charges unless it involved someone being shot or killed).

So we are headed for crime shit show of Mad Max proportions. I refuse to even travel through St. Louis City, let alone visit any business or ballgame there. Of course I also refuse to go through or to every other Democrap held city too. Now most of the time, I am carrying a primary pistol (G19 or G43X) with a back up (G43 or S&W Airweight model 60 revolver) when I leave the house.

So kids hold onto your ammo supply and carry all the time if you can.

Drug rip.

Food for thought for the I only need a 5 shot snubby crowd.

I do wonder if they knew the victim. I have found a lot of home invasions and robbery come from some basis of relationship and knowledge of the target.

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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Strange, I didn't see them take anything much unless he had an expensive watch or something I couldn't see.
They did seem to have a plan when it first started.

An article I read stated that the thugs got his Rolex and backpack and attempted unsuccessfully to get his car keys.

Sad to say that you can't go around looking like you may be carrying things of higher value but that's reality now, especially late at night.
Also shows that being aware of your surroundings at all times is probably the most effective deterrent, especially when alone in public spaces.
The farther away you can identify a potential threat, the more time you have to evaluate and react.

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Originally posted by c1steve:
If he had been aware, the victim could have shot the person in the white hoodie first. Most likely the other two would have taken off, with or without their accomplice.

How's that armchair of yours? Comfortable??

More on the overall picture of high-end robberies in Houston:

3 areas - River Oaks (ritzy area where George HW Bush used to live), Galleria, and one high end jeweler

patiently following to next stop to rob including all the way to Alvin, TX, which is 35 miles away

undercover officers casing areas have netted 2 arrests including 2 turds following a guy in a Lamborghini

victims are not the "gray men." Instead they're showing ostentatious signs of wealth

I used to live in that area. It’s the opposite of a bad area.

Of course, the Commie mayor of Charleston is doing his best to trash Charleston, so I suppose if Houston elected a communist - which seems hard to believe - it could be the same.

F***k the gray man BS. It’s letting the Communists win. (Coming from a man who doesn’t wear his Rolex in Miami - but that’s to avoid the trappings of being a Miami D-bag)

What’s wrong w Texas that Federal charges can carry more time? That’s BS! We should be ashamed of ourselves for letting any jurisdiction have longer or harsher sentences.

We have cedar to clear, and West Texas to restore - if possible - we could easily drop them off on their own in the desert, and tell them to work for food and water, without any real issue.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
I suppose if Houston elected a communist - which seems hard to believe - it could be the same.

If? You must not have lived here in a long time. Several commie mayors in a row, district attorney's office is woke, former police chiefs who hamstrung Trump-era federal task forces, etc. Houston is very blue.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
What’s wrong w Texas that Federal charges can carry more time? That’s BS! We should be ashamed of ourselves for letting any jurisdiction have longer or harsher sentences.

Nothing wrong with Texas. Houston has a woke district attorney so kicking it to feds to prevent criminal pampering.

The local CBS affiliate, KHOU, will not call out wokeness so they'll mislabel it as something else. To modernize and paraphrase Mark Twain, "A man who doesn't watch the news is uninformed and a man who watches the news is misinformed."

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tatortodd:
If? You must not have lived here in a long time. Several commie mayors in a row, district attorney's office is woke, former police chiefs who hamstrung Trump-era federal task forces, etc. Houston is very blue.[QUOTE]

I blame people from Illinois for that. From what I understand, quite a number of people from Illinois moved to Houston. Wouldn't be surprised if Houston overtook Chicago for 3rd largest city in the country in the not so distant future.