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In the mid 70"s was called for jury duty on a double murder and during questioned for suitability of being selected was asked my feelings about death penality sentence .... My answer was in the "yes" if found guilty... The defense quickly released me "cause" ......................... drill sgt.
 
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I was being deposed once on a crash investigation. Attorney asked how I could find his driver at fault for following too closely when I never measured an exact following distance. I replied I did have a distance. He asked what the distance was.

My response was "well the distance was zero feet when the vehicle impacted the one in front of it".

After that deposition, that was the last I heard of the case.

I work the criminal side of the street, but if they're gonna call a cop into civil litigation, I'm gonna have some fun collecting my OT.
 
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Almost 2 years into my retirement career of State Circuit Court Bailiff with around 30 Jury Trials completed (half criminal and half civil). Jurors almost always get it right. In a murder case after reaching a guilty verdict, the jury Foreman asked me did they get it right. I then got to tell the jury the rest of the story, as this was the defendants third murder by the time he reached 18 years of age, and this didn’t count all the armed robberies he did.


Interesting. I'm in a similar position, and the rule here is that you do not discuss cases with the jurors, even after the verdict is in and the case is adjourned.
 
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I served on a jury in '79 in Lucas County, OH. The defendant, 17 at the time of the crime, and his older brother had robbed and sexually assault three women ranging in age from 72 to 91. In the process they beat an 84 year woman to death with a piece of cinder block.

There were no fingerprints, and it was prior to DNA typing, so the evidence was circumstantial. It included the defendant's blood soaked jacket and the victim's television, which was sold to a neighbor the morning after the murder. The defendant and all the victims lived within a two block radius. The defense had nothing, and I remember feeling bad for the victim's son when he took the stand. Despite the fact that he had produced a receipt for the TV with a corresponding serial number the defense questioned him if he was "sure" that it was his mother's. That pretty much pissed me off.

The trial took about a week total and we found him guilty in about three hours. I remember deputies escorting us to our vehicles afterward, maybe because some of the defendant's friends/family were not pleased with the verdict.
 
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The best interaction of the week was when the defense was cross examining the plaintiff’s live-in boyfriend. It was a very hostile exchange from the first question. All of us felt that the boyfriend lied and omitted to support her claims.

At one point the defense asked him a follow up question and without hesitation the boyfriend snapped back "that’s irrelevant".
The lawyer said "your honor".

The judge leaned forward and said to the boyfriend "I don’t have a lot to do in this courtroom, but deciding what is relevant and what is not relevant is one of them, so you just answer the question’s until I tell the defense it’s not relevant".

We kept it together but once we got back into the jury room we all lost it. "That’s irrelevant" became a private joke for the week in the jury room.



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Back in 1992 when I moved from NY to SC and changed over my drivers license I received a notice for jury duty at the Magistrate Court.

They must have mailed the damn notice the same day I was issued a SC license.

The DUI case was interesting in that the arresting officer also served as the prosecution. The defendant had a lawyer present also.

While the officer was presenting his evidence the defense attorney objected and asked for dismissal of the charge. The Magistrate Judge ruled in favor and the case was dismissed.

After the court cleared out the Magistrate explained to us jurors the officer made an error when presenting evidence. The exact nature of the error was not provided.

Haven’t been called by federal, state or local since.



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Almost 2 years into my retirement career of State Circuit Court Bailiff with around 30 Jury Trials completed (half criminal and half civil). Jurors almost always get it right. In a murder case after reaching a guilty verdict, the jury Foreman asked me did they get it right. I then got to tell the jury the rest of the story, as this was the defendants third murder by the time he reached 18 years of age, and this didn’t count all the armed robberies he did.


Interesting. I'm in a similar position, and the rule here is that you do not discuss cases with the jurors, even after the verdict is in and the case is adjourned.


In Missouri, only Grand Jury Deliberations are secret. After the verdict, jurors are released from their oath prohibiting them from talking about the case and can talk to anyone. Most of the time they do talk with attorneys or the Judge, and they always have questions for me.
 
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In Missouri, only Grand Jury Deliberations are secret. After the verdict, jurors are released from their oath prohibiting them from talking about the case and can talk to anyone. Most of the time they do talk with attorneys or the Judge, and they always have questions for me.



When the judge was dismissing us told us that while we were free to discuss the case, we did not have to and both the plaintiff, the defendant, and their counsels were prohibited by law from contacting us. There are no records of our deliberations other then the verdict and all jurors note taken during the trial were destroyed.

While I am confident in our verdict, and all of us were on the same page from the beginning of deliberations, I don’t think I am comfortable talking to any of the parties involved about it.



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I was in a jury pool being chosen, and the Judge asked if anyone felt they could not be objective before beginning, and I said that I did not believe in the validity of chiropractic medicine. One of the layers gave a nod to the judge and I was outta there.

Many years after that I became a big supporter of chiropractic medicine, because I was in a real pickle physically, and a chiropractor saved my ass, allowing to walk normally again.

After that I became a big believer in Physical Therapy medicine as well for exactly the same reason.

And after that I came to a similar conclusion for accupuncture, again for the same reason.

Lots of things in life are like that.

If I got called in again for jury duty regarding a medical case, I might not be able to get out of it, since I'm not keen on lying to a court or a judge. I can't think of anything much more foolish than that.




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I'm retired . I wouldn't mind being called for Jury Duty . Per Diem plus mileage is a bonus . Enough to buy a good lunch . Big Grin
I got a questionnaire in the mail a couple of years ago . I filled it out but never heard anything . My son is a Deputy in a neighboring Parish so that will probably get me kicked out anyway .
 
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After that I became a big believer in Physical Therapy medicine as well for exactly the same reason.


Oh, definitely. PT rocks. And not just when recovering from surgery or an injury.

I started having nerve issues with my neck/shoulder/arm about 10 years ago, out of the blue.

Went to my PCP who couldn't figure it out, so he sent me to a shoulder specialist doc.

Shoulder specialist couldn't figure it out so he sent me to an elbow/wrist specialist doc.

Elbow/wrist specialist couldn't figure it out so he sent me to a nerve specialist doc.

Nerve specialist doc couldn't figure it out so he sent me to a neck specialist doc.

Neck specialist doc couldn't figure it out so he suggested a course of PT prior to a MRI and surgery as the next step.

Walked in to my first PT appointment, described my symptoms, and the physical therapist said "Oh, I know what that is..." and that very day I had some relief and within a few weeks a complete fix. It was a compression of the brachial plexus nerve cluster near my shoulder/collarbone, which was sending nerve signal issues all the way out to my elbow and my neck. Stretching my pectoralis minor was the ticket.

5 doctors over several weeks (and hundreds of dollars in copays) couldn't figure it out, but a physical therapist knew immediately how to resolve it.

 
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I finished up 5 days at the court house today after serving on a jury for an automobile accident trial

The case involves the defendant, an 18 y/o man who was the driver of the #1 car in a 3-car pile-up. He was driving a GMC Serria and rear ended a stopped Dodge Caravan propelling it into a stopped Hyundai Element. The Plaintiff is a 30 y/o woman who was the passenger in the front seat of the Element. She is claiming that he is responsible for causing permanent injuries to her and seeking damages for past and future medical costs and pain and suffering. To muddy the waters, the accident happened on 31 Oct. on 21 Feb, she is in another accident where her car is T-boned and totaled. Part of our instructions include separating blame for damages between the 2 accidents.
Prior to the start, the question of fault for the accident has already been agreed to. we are only looking at injury damages.

It was very interesting to go through the process. Seeing the inner workings was really eye opening. To say it is not like TV is an understatement.

The judge seemed to be pretty good. as the week went on I thought he was getting tired of both sets of counsels but he never lost his professionalism when we were in the courtroom.

it was interesting watch the testimony and evaluate the witness testimony. one person flat out lied to us, another probably lied and definitely omitted facts and had to have true detailed pulled out. Newsflash, if the lawyer asks you a question during cross examination, he probably already knows the answer.

We wrapped it up today and spent about an hour in deliberations. while I didn't really want to do it, I am glad that I went through the experience.


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In Missouri, only Grand Jury Deliberations are secret. After the verdict, jurors are released from their oath prohibiting them from talking about the case and can talk to anyone. Most of the time they do talk with attorneys or the Judge, and they always have questions for me.



When the judge was dismissing us told us that while we were free to discuss the case, we did not have to and both the plaintiff, the defendant, and their counsels were prohibited by law from contacting us. There are no records of our deliberations other then the verdict and all jurors note taken during the trial were destroyed.

While I am confident in our verdict, and all of us were on the same page from the beginning of deliberations, I don’t think I am comfortable talking to any of the parties involved about it.



Basically, in Missouri it is the juror’s choice, after released from oath, if they want to talk about the case with anyone. That includes how they reached their verdict.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jsbcody:

In Missouri, only Grand Jury Deliberations are secret. After the verdict, jurors are released from their oath prohibiting them from talking about the case and can talk to anyone. Most of the time they do talk with attorneys or the Judge, and they always have questions for me.



When the judge was dismissing us told us that while we were free to discuss the case, we did not have to and both the plaintiff, the defendant, and their counsels were prohibited by law from contacting us. There are no records of our deliberations other then the verdict and all jurors note taken during the trial were destroyed.

While I am confident in our verdict, and all of us were on the same page from the beginning of deliberations, I don’t think I am comfortable talking to any of the parties involved about it.



Basically, in Missouri it is the juror’s choice, after released from oath, if they want to talk about the case with anyone. That includes how they reached their verdict.


In Texas, when I was the foreman on a petit trial, after the trial was over the prosecutor came to me and asked what they the prosecution did well and didn’t so they could learn. I had a jury with a full blown hippie but we ended up voting guilty but it was very frustrating as I had to keep reminding the hippie guy to stick to the facts. All he would say is he hated cops. I don’t know how he made it onto the jury and I had to do a lot of talking to keep him on track and what our task was regardless of how he felt about LE.

Obviously when I served on a Grand Jury, I am prohibited to this day and beyond to discuss the details of any case or discussion ever held during a Grand Jury session.




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My wife got jury duty for a rear-ender MVA trial in the City of St. Louis. Unanimous verdict for the Defendant, so you know it had to be a bad case if that was the result in that venue. I got the post card shortly after and was already in the process of moving to Iowa so I missed that dance.

Fast forward to last month, I got the postcard to be on call for possible petit jury service for the month of March. I called in Friday and was not in the group to report tomorrow morning. We'll see what next week brings.

As a lawyer who has done both plaintiff and defense civil trial work and criminal defense, the odds are pretty unlikely I will be picked, but there is no mechanism to secure a pass on showing up. Ironically, I just spoke with someone last month that had a warrant for his arrest for missing jury duty. He didn't show up, then missed the summons for not showing up, was arrested for failure to appear, bonded out and then missed his next court date so forfeited his bond and got a new warrant.

Our state bar's journal had an article last year or so about a trial lawyer's experience of being selected and serving on a jury. It must have been a pretty bad panel if they allowed a lawyer to be on it.
 
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