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Ray Epps to be criminally charged

An attorney for Ray Epps, a man seen on video wearing a Trump hat during the January 6 riot, says that his client has been informed by federal law enforcement officials that they intend to charge him in connection with the events of that day.

The revelation was made in a lawsuit that Epps filed against Fox News on Wednesday that accused the network and former host Tucker Carlson of defaming him.

Epps has long been accused by many of being an undercover federal agent who instigated some of the events of that day. He has strongly denied being a federal agent.

Buried deep in the lawsuit, Epps lawyer says that the DOJ recently informed Epps that it plans to prosecute him. Epps’ lawyer blamed Carlson for the potential forthcoming charges.

“Finally, in May 2023, the Department of Justice notified Epps that it would seek to charge him criminally for events on January 6, 2021—two-and-a-half years later,” the lawsuit said. “The relentless attacks by Fox and Mr. Carlson and the resulting political pressure likely resulted in the criminal charges.”

Epps was a central figure in the Capitol riot from the beginning.

The 62-year-old Marine veteran from Arizona is seen in multiple video clips from January 6 and the day before trying to whip up other Trump supporters to “go into the Capitol” the next day.

“I’ll say it. We need to go into the Capitol,” Epps says in one clip. At least four times on video, Epps repeats his call to action to “go into the Capitol.”

FBI Director Christopher Wray was grilled by lawmakers on Wednesday on a variety of issues, including Epps.

“I’m not going to engage here in a discussion about individual people who are or are not going to be prosecuted,” Wray responded.
 
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Inside Ray Epps Lawsuit Against Fox News, Plaintiff Contends DOJ Notified Him in May They Would “Seek to Charge Him Criminally”

Something is suspicious about this in the presentation, the timing and even the wording.

Ray Epps was a guy who attended the events in/around Washington DC on January 5th and January 6th, 2021. There is a lot of video footage of Ray Epps instructing people to go to the Capitol building. Despite a rather voluminous amount of evidence, Ray Epps was never charged with any conduct related to the events of January 6th.

According to a lawsuit Epps filed against Tucker Carlson and Fox News claiming the outlet targeted and defamed him, Ray Epps states, “in May 2023, the Department of Justice notified Epps that it would seek to charge him criminally for events on January 6, 2021—two-and-a-half years later.” [lawsuit citation – pg 41]



First, since when does the DOJ inform a suspect in advance they are seeking to charge him? Second, timing. It is now mid-July; where’s the indictment? Third, the wording is suspicious – the DOJ would “seek to charge him criminally.” Meaning, the Dept of Justice told Epps they were going to make efforts to arrest him?

Considering the lawsuit itself if dependent on a very specific narrative; and considering the lawsuit itself if dependent on a sympathy construct within that narrative; and considering the media narrative has been about wrongly targeted Epps by right-wing disinformation white nationalists, something is not passing the sniff test.

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I don't really care if Epps "should" be charged, I'm far more bothered by all the folks that were charged for far less... And the DOZENS who have been locked up for over 2 years, with no bail, and have not yet gone to trial.


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In before we have a no contest plea deal for misdemeanor trespassing and he's sentenced to a fine. He's one of the King's men.
 
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CUT IT OUT

Goddamn, guys. Some of you will bitch about anything!

CUT IT OUT

Jesus Christ, this shit is old, gentlemen! STOP trying to make something good into something bad!!
 
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Considering all the other people whose lives were turned upside down as a result of J6, I suppose it's good that some consistency is being shown by charging him too. Of course, I don't think anyone should have been charged, so in the big picture, I don't think it's good at all. However, if he and others really were gov't sponsored agent provocateurs, I really would like to see that exposed.
 
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What was the defamation? Is he complaining he was outed as a participant? Because the videos are pretty convincing evidence that he was.
Or is he claiming being identified as a federal agent was defamatory?


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CUT IT OUT

Goddamn, guys. Some of you will bitch about anything!

CUT IT OUT

Jesus Christ, this shit is old, gentlemen! STOP trying to make something good into something bad!!
I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer about this or to spin it. The Garland DOJ has shown a pattern of those types of deals for political allies. Many non-violent J6 protestors have been given the opposite.

I hope that you are correct and that this is a sign of progress.
 
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First, since when does the DOJ inform a suspect in advance they are seeking to charge him?


This is often done by the DOJ in cases when they know a person is represented and after a prolonged investigation with that counsel's representation.

No opinion as to the rest, just want to make sure everyone understands this is not uncommon behavior by the DOJ.


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What exactly are the charges?

Nothing in this thread indicates the charges, just that they (the DOJ) are saying they intend to charge him.


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I guess we'll find out, won't we?
 
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I don't want to hear excuses
Understood. I won't post comments like that in the future.
 
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I wonder if Epps realizes his suit against Fox and Carlson opens him up to discovery.

And things found via civil discovery may be admissible at his criminal trial.





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WaPo, NYTimes, Bloomberg, and Rolling Stone are now not referring to Jan 6 as an insurrection or even a riot bc they are now defending Ray Epps

Now Jan 6 was 'rallies,' 'demonstrations,' and 'protests'

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I wonder if Epps realizes his suit against Fox and Carlson opens him up to discovery.

And things found via civil discovery may be admissible at his criminal trial.


This thought fills me with glee. I would love it if Epps being an agent provocateur was exposed publicly.
 
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I wonder if Epps realizes his suit against Fox and Carlson opens him up to discovery.

And things found via civil discovery may be admissible at his criminal trial.


This thought fills me with glee. I would love it if Epps being an agent provocateur was exposed publicly.


Agree! I think he's a dipshit for filing this. We will see.




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Despite a rather voluminous amount of evidence, Ray Epps was never charged with any conduct related to the events of January 6th.


So this Epps fells is the TRUE instigator if I'm reading this correctly?





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