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The Trump Presidency : Year II

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December 22, 2018, 04:28 AM
Hay2bale
The Trump Presidency : Year II
Thank you, Mr. President!


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December 22, 2018, 05:51 AM
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December 22, 2018, 06:07 AM
downtownv
Does anyone remember what the last shutdown was about?
It was a Dem demand for DACA. No one cared.

So if 800,000 Federal employees are furloughed, what the hell did we need them for in the 1st place. Obama hired thousands and thousands to prop up his horrific unemployment figures.
I suggest, we start trimming the fat with this group.


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December 22, 2018, 07:42 AM
HayesGreener
The real nightmare for so many bureaucrats in an extended shutdown is the realization of how many of them serve no purpose.


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December 22, 2018, 07:53 AM
DennisM
Ron Swanson approves.
December 22, 2018, 08:09 AM
2BobTanner
TSA is part of those affected by the shutdown. I guess we’ll now see now how the gropers like being considered as “essential” but won’t get paid until the shutdown is over. Could be very interesting at the airports for a while. Eek


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December 22, 2018, 08:17 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
TSA is part of those affected by the shutdown. I guess we’ll now see now how the gropers like being considered as “essential” but won’t get paid until the shutdown is over. Could be very interesting at the airports for a while. Eek


Are they paid daily or something? Is there seriously anyone here who couldn't survive after missing one paycheck and knowing that you'll eventually get that money? If you can't make it two weeks on savings, I don't know what to tell you.

Besides that, there are always credit cards, and anything that you charge today won't come due for at least a few weeks.


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December 22, 2018, 09:51 AM
Fenris
Is Mueller essential?




The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC

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December 22, 2018, 10:59 AM
erj_pilot
I haven't heard/seen much talk of this on here...I was in the crew room the other day and the TV was tuned to Fox News (in LAX of all places!). They were talking about border security and there was a blurb on there about President Trump sending something like $10B to Central America to help take out corruption or some such BS to coerce that populace from leaving their country?? I haven't heard it mentioned anymore...does anyone know what that crap was about??



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December 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
Warhorse
If these "nonessential" governmental employee's are indeed "nonessential", why are they employed in the first place?


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December 22, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jimineer
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
I haven't heard/seen much talk of this on here...I was in the crew room the other day and the TV was tuned to Fox News (in LAX of all places!). They were talking about border security and there was a blurb on there about President Trump sending something like $10B to Central America to help take out corruption or some such BS to coerce that populace from leaving their country?? I haven't heard it mentioned anymore...does anyone know what that crap was about??


I think I heard the same such nonsense. I did find this via google.

“In 2018, the U.S. government will give Mexico $87,660,000 in foreign aid. The largest segment, 56 percent, will go toward peace and security. The second largest segment will go toward democracy, human rights and governance.”

https://www.reference.com/gove...ico-d1238a7e5dd87a09

I don’t see the problem being solved because those on the receiving end of this money won’t want to see it go away. Crazy.
December 22, 2018, 11:22 AM
Pipe Smoker
“My support for President Trump’s decisions to bring American forces out of Syria now and soon Afghanistan is informed not only by my experiences since 9/11, but also four decades of military and civilian experience planning and executing national security policy. I have studied national security matters under retired US Marine Lt General Mick Trainor at Harvard, and many other great thinkers at the U.S. College of Naval Warfare.

Unlike the bipartisan foreign policy swamp, which has been consistently proven wrong about nearly every major military decision of the last decade, President Trump has overseen a clear, steady and realist foreign policy, focused on putting America First. From re-building America’s military, destroying ISIS, ending the Iran deal, de-escalating tensions with North Korea, he has consistently proven the naysayers in the foreign policy swamp wrong…”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...-right-on-syria/amp/



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December 22, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jimineer
quote:
Originally posted by Warhorse:
If these "nonessential" governmental employee's are indeed "nonessential", why are they employed in the first place?


Well, for the Navy about 1800 civilians in NAVAIR get furloughed. This has a ripple effect that impacts government contractors for Naval weapon systems contracts to some extent, but I’m not positive on the full extent of the impact. Some people may consider that a good thing though.

This will impact navy research groups. So lots of scientists and engineers get work stops, including at government contractors.

Some of the non-essential people are less non-essential than others.
December 22, 2018, 12:04 PM
Gustofer
^^^ As I understand it, the military has already been funded and will not be effected by this shutdown.

I assume civilian workers are funded under the defense budget. Could be wrong on that though.


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December 22, 2018, 12:16 PM
mesabi
As I'm perusing the board, Fox News is playing in the background with a parade of idiots yakking about the shutdown, how they are in favor of border security but not a wall (Chucky S.), and "Oh, the poor Kurds!". Screw it. Don't just shut it down; burn it down. I'm just amazed and thankful that the President is making decisions I agree with and is standing strong.
December 22, 2018, 12:26 PM
Gustofer
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Originally posted by mesabi:
"Oh, the poor Kurds!". Screw it.

The day may come when we need the Kurds again, and with our history of royally fucking them over (starting with GHWB who left them to be slaughtered), I'm not so sure they'll be there when needed.

I thought I read above somewhere where The Donald has made arrangements for the Saudis to take on the role of working with/protecting them. I hope that's the case. They've been good friends to us and need to be treated as such.


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December 22, 2018, 12:31 PM
nojoy
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer addressed President Donald Trump while speaking on the Senate floor Saturday, saying, "President Trump, if you want to open the government, you must abandon the wall – plain and simple.”

This guy is really something. Looks like the partial Government shutdown is going to last a while.....
December 22, 2018, 12:33 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by mesabi:
As I'm perusing the board, Fox News is playing in the background with a parade of idiots yakking about the shutdown, how they are in favor of border security but not a wall (Chucky S.)...

And who said leftist snowflake, Art Appreciation majors can't find employment?



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December 22, 2018, 12:40 PM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by nojoy:
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer addressed President Donald Trump while speaking on the Senate floor Saturday, saying, "President Trump, if you want to open the government, you must abandon the wall – plain and simple.”
This guy is really something. Looks like the partial Government shutdown is going to last a while.....

The senate is the only impediment to the wall. Schumer does not control the Senate. McConnell could solve the problem ... if he wanted to.



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December 22, 2018, 12:44 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
The senate is the only impediment to the wall. Schumer does not control the Senate. McConnell could solve the problem ... if he wanted to.

I predict that the spine McConnell mysteriously discovered during the Kavanaugh hearings will be absent when this bill hits the Senate. I hope I am wrong.



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