When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
November 16, 2018, 08:55 AM
Cliff
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
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the new socialist twat whose name I can't recall
That would be Occasional Cortex.
HA!
"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."
--Sir Winston Churchill
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
--James Earl Jones
November 16, 2018, 07:26 PM
olfuzzy
The Supreme Court announced Friday it will grant an expedited hearing on the Trump administration’s request to add a question concerning citizenship to the 2020 census.
The justices set oral argument for February, converting what had been a narrow request involving one part of the case into a full grant of review.
At stake is one of President Trump’s key goals — asking people to disclose their citizenship when they take part in the 2020 count.
Anti-Trump state attorneys general and immigrant-rights groups sued to stop the question, arguing it will scare immigrants, both legal and illegal, away from taking part in the census, skewing the count. That, they say, will mean some states won’t get the congressional representation nor federal money they are entitled to.
A federal judge in New York has ruled that asking the question isn’t inherently illegal — indeed, it was part of censuses up to 1950, and is still asked by the Census Bureau to some smaller sample sizes. But the judge questioned the motives of the Trump administration in asking it.
The case appears to come down to a parsing of words of Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who said he made the decision to add a citizenship question, dismissing advice of some top aides, “solely” because of a request by the Justice Department.
He has since acknowledged also talking to a top White House official and others about the move even before the Justice Department request.
But government lawyers say his statement was accurate — it was the Justice Department request that he was responding to.
Solicitor General Noel Francisco said the case is a test of whether the courts will grant President Trump the assumption of regularity judges are supposed to give to an administration, not automatically assuming shenanigans or “bad faith.”
Immigrant-rights groups are wary of a loss at the high court.
“Census data is pivotal in the allocation of billions of dollars in federal funds and the apportionment of political representation, making the proposed citizenship question a critical issue for Latinos and all Americans,” said the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials.
^^^^^ What makes anyone think such a question will be answered truthfully?
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth
November 17, 2018, 04:58 AM
stormwalker
quote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy: The Supreme Court announced Friday it will grant an expedited hearing on the Trump administration’s request to add a question concerning citizenship to the 2020 census.
The justices set oral argument for February, converting what had been a narrow request involving one part of the case into a full grant of review.
At stake is one of President Trump’s key goals — asking people to disclose their citizenship when they take part in the 2020 count.
Anti-Trump state attorneys general and immigrant-rights groups sued to stop the question, arguing it will scare immigrants, both legal and illegal, away from taking part in the census, skewing the count. That, they say, will mean some states won’t get the congressional representation nor federal money they are entitled to.
A federal judge in New York has ruled that asking the question isn’t inherently illegal — indeed, it was part of censuses up to 1950, and is still asked by the Census Bureau to some smaller sample sizes. But the judge questioned the motives of the Trump administration in asking it.
The case appears to come down to a parsing of words of Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who said he made the decision to add a citizenship question, dismissing advice of some top aides, “solely” because of a request by the Justice Department.
He has since acknowledged also talking to a top White House official and others about the move even before the Justice Department request.
But government lawyers say his statement was accurate — it was the Justice Department request that he was responding to.
Solicitor General Noel Francisco said the case is a test of whether the courts will grant President Trump the assumption of regularity judges are supposed to give to an administration, not automatically assuming shenanigans or “bad faith.”
Immigrant-rights groups are wary of a loss at the high court.
“Census data is pivotal in the allocation of billions of dollars in federal funds and the apportionment of political representation, making the proposed citizenship question a critical issue for Latinos and all Americans,” said the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials.
How far will this decision go toward establishing a precedent in which congressional representation depends on citizenship, and how will it intern effect any future cases of birthright citizenship?
President Donald Trump said Saturday that he will present his written responses to questions from special counsel Robert Mueller next week.
Trump’s legal team has negotiated for months over what topics Trump will respond to and whether he is willing to take part in a sit-down interview with prosecutors.
“We haven’t even talked about it,” Trump said when asked if he is willing to have a face-to-face interview with Mueller’s team.
Trump’s lawyers have said that they are willing to let Trump respond to questions in writing about possible collusion between the Russian government and campaign. But they have asserted that questions about potential obstruction of justice regarding the firing of James Comey as FBI director are off limits.
Trump has insisted that he had the executive authority to fire Comey for any reason he saw fit.
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plus, Comey turned out to be a lying snake who was trying to sandbag the President.
November 17, 2018, 11:05 AM
chellim1
Illegal aliens are not entitled to vote (even if some do illegally). However, they are represented in Congress in that congressional seats are apportioned according to population including illegal immigrants. I think that's wrong. It reduces the rights and power of citizens. As a result, California gets more Congessional seats than it should and I am under-represented.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
November 17, 2018, 01:46 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1: Illegal aliens are not entitled to vote (even if some do illegally). However, they are represented in Congress in that congressional seats are apportioned according to population including illegal immigrants. I think that's wrong. It reduces the rights and power of citizens. As a result, California gets more Congessional seats than it should and I am under-represented.
It also gives California more Electors in the Electoral College than it should have, and that is probably more disadvantageous.
Unfortunately, although I fully support the idea of only apportioning based on citizen population, I don't see any practical way to insure that end, short of requiring every person enumerated in the Census to show proof of citizenship--and we know that won't happen.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth
November 19, 2018, 11:03 AM
Cliff
Joey D 11/19/18
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INTERVIEW - JOE DIGENOVA - legal analyst & former U.S. Attorney to the District of Columbia
"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."
--Sir Winston Churchill
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
--James Earl Jones
November 19, 2018, 03:05 PM
Jimineer
Anyone know where POTUS got that camo USA hat he’s been sporting lately? I need one. It’s not on his website unless I missed it.
November 19, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jim Shugart
A Trump voter feels betrayed after reading 800 pages of queer feminist theory. Go pee before watching this: You have been warned.
When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
November 20, 2018, 05:51 AM
parabellum
Da fuq's a "cishet"? We got a dyslexic closed-captioner, or what?
November 20, 2018, 08:41 AM
Jim Shugart
I think it is an contraction of cis-heterosexual. In this case Google may not be your friend: You'll just get a headache.
When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
November 20, 2018, 09:42 AM
sdy
after Feinstein and Kamala Harris have been such assholes in the confirmation hearings, now they want to cut a deal
Feinstein And Harris Would Like To Pick Trump’s Judicial Nominees For Him
Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris, both members of the Judiciary Committee, called on the White House Monday to make a deal to fill court vacancies.
The two California senators asked Pat Cipollone, tapped to be the acting White House counsel in October, to broker a deal over three 9th Circuit Court of Appeals positions.
“While we continue to oppose the slate of nominees the White House put forward on October 10, we remain hopeful that you will work with us to reach a bipartisan agreement in a timely manner,” they wrote.
In exchange for agreeing to support the appointment of Judge James Rogan (who Trump picked), they want him to have Judge Lucy Koh nominated and confirmed for the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. She’s a District Judge for the Northern District of California who was appointed by Barack Obama at the request of Boxer and Feinstein
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Let's all remember how nasty these two liars were in the Kavanaugh hearings
November 20, 2018, 10:02 AM
mbinky
The easiest way to answer their request for a deal is to ask yourself - if the roles were reversed, would the dems let the republicans pick judges? They absolutely would not.
No support is needed from these two pieces of trash, and no deals should be made.
People wonder what will be the spark that sets off the Second War For Independence and I'll tell you it will be - the utter lawlessness and corruption of our government. NO ONE on the left has yet to be held accountable. FOR ANYTHING. Judges who make shit up as the go along, a DOJ that is rotten to the core, led by a weaselly tyrant and enforced by his lackeys in the FBI (also known as the enforcement arm of the DNC).
Trump better pick, and the senate better confirm, an AG who is willing to clean house.
November 20, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jimineer
When democrats say bipartisan they mean “our way”. Fuck them. Trump better not entertain their request at all.
November 20, 2018, 10:27 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
quote:
the new socialist twat whose name I can't recall
That would be Occasional Cortex.
Should that be, missing cortex"?
Elk
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FBHO!!!
The Idaho Elk Hunter
November 20, 2018, 04:21 PM
nhtagmember
[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
November 20, 2018, 04:36 PM
Pipe Smoker
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: after Feinstein andKamala Harris have been such assholes in the confirmation hearings, now they want to cut a deal
Feinstein And Harris Would Like To Pick Trump’s Judicial Nominees For Him <snip>
Feinstein and Harris don’t have a very good hand. A pair of deuces…
President Trump has submitted his written answers to certain questions related to the Russia investigation to special counsel Robert Mueller, the president's legal team announced Tuesday.
Trump's personal lawyer Jay Sekulow said the answers were submitted on Tuesday and cover "issues regarding the Russia-related topics of the inquiry."
The submission caps off months of high-stakes wrangling between Mueller's team and the president's lawyers about what answers Trump would provide for investigators.
Trump's attorneys have long maintained they would only answer questions pertaining to allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia's efforts to interfere in the 2016 election, and not inquiries about whether Trump obstructed the federal investigation into the interference.
Rudy Giuliani, another Trump lawyer, has repeatedly expressed fear that the president could walk into a perjury trap if he answers Mueller's questions about the firing of James Comey as FBI director and what he told the ex-lawman about the bureau's investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
"It has been our position from the outset that much of what has been asked raised serious constitutional issues and was beyond the scope of a legitimate inquiry," Giuliani said. "This remains our position today."
The former New York City mayor said Trump has "nonetheless provided unprecedented cooperation" to Mueller's office, including more than 30 witnesses and 1.4 million pages of material.
