_____________________________________________ I may be a bad person, but at least I use my turn signal.
July 23, 2018, 09:47 AM
Cliff
Joey D 7/23/18
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INTERVIEW - JOE DIGENOVA - legal analyst and former US Attorney to the District of Columbia
TOPIC: FISA warrant / Carter Page / Dossier
"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."
--Sir Winston Churchill
"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose."
--James Earl Jones
July 23, 2018, 10:31 AM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by signewt: I wonder whether the 'all caps' format is actually a significant part of the message.
I think in part to wag the MSM doggie a bit, so they can claim he's mad or enraged.
Then they drop the SCOTUS / Putin / bone of the week and run along with this one about Iran, all the while trying to make IRAN look good because they really hate POTUS.
Which is just more sauce for the goose - siding with Iran, Illegals, gangs, and desiring higher taxes for all is such a winning platform.
MSM hasn't figure out it isn't about what Trump is saying or doing right now, it's what he's already figured out what it will help him do in 1-3-10 weeks from now.
Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way FacebookTwitterLinkedInShare Reprints 6/22/2017 Election 2016: Late in 2016, we created a stir by suggesting that Donald Trump was likely right when he claimed that millions of noncitizens had illegally voted in the U.S. election. Now, a study by a New Jersey think tank provides new evidence that that's what happened.
Last November, just weeks after his Electoral College win that gave him the presidency, then President-elect Donald Trump tweeted, "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."
The reaction was angry and swift, with the left accusing him of being an "internet troll" and of hatching a "Twitter-born conspiracy theory."
At the time, we noted that a group called True The Vote, an online anti-voter-fraud website, had claimed that illegals had cast three million votes last year. The media and left-wing groups immediately portrayed True The Vote as a fringe group with little credibility.
The only problem is, a study in 2014 in the online Electoral Studies Journal made a quite similar claim: In the 2008 and 2010 elections, they said, as many as 2.8 million illegal noncitizen votes were cast, "enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes and congressional elections," said the study, authored by Jesse T. Richman and Gushan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.
The bombshell was this: "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."
It got little coverage in the mainstream media, and what coverage it did get was almost entirely dismissive.
Now comes a new study by Just Facts, a libertarian/conservative think tank, that used data from a large Harvard/You.Gov study that every two years samples tens of thousands of voters, including some who admit they are noncitizens and thus can't vote legally.
The findings are eye-opening. In 2008, as many as 5.7 million noncitizens voted in the election. In 2012, as many as 3.6 million voted, the study said.
In 2016, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates that there were 21.0 million adult noncitizens in the U.S., up from 19.4 million in 2008. It is therefore highly likely that millions of noncitizens cast votes in 2016.
And it was no accident. Democrats had extensive get-out-the-vote campaigns in areas heavily populated by illegal aliens. As far back as 2008, Obama made sure that those who wanted to vote knew it was safe, announcing that election records would not be cross-checked with immigration databases.
And last year, the Obama White House supported a court injunction that kept Kansas, Alabama and Georgia from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote. The message was sent, loud and clear: If you're a noncitizen or here illegally, don't be afraid. You're free to vote. No one will stop you.
We don't know the exact number of illegal votes. No one does. But the data that are available suggest that the number of illegal votes was substantial — probably in the millions, as Trump said — and likely had a significant impact on the election's outcome.
Even Democrats should find this troubling; every vote cast by a noncitizen voter negates the vote of a citizen voter. It's that simple. It's time the Democratic Party started living up to its name and stop encouraging noncitizens and illegal aliens to vote in our election.
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July 23, 2018, 01:32 PM
P220 Smudge
Yeah, NPR this morning was all abuzz about how Trump's tweet is only serving to unite the proud, wonderful Iranian people in their hatred of the US. They alternated between pieces about Iran and comments from Adam Schiff about how horrible and divisive Trump is, and that he basically told Russia to go ahead and fuck with the midterm elections also, because he didn't chest thump and headbutt the lockers at the meeting to show how tough he is. But yeah, the Iranians are great people and we would do well to not further enrage them. At least so says NPR.
______________________________________________ "If the truth shall kill them, let them die.”
Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon.
July 23, 2018, 02:05 PM
lkdr1989
Pompeo's speech from yesterday...all part of the Administration's strategy against the mullahs:
...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV
"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
July 23, 2018, 02:06 PM
sdy
Sarah Sanders today:
President Trump is looking at removing the security clearances of
Brennan Comey McCabe Clapper Rice Hayden
They have "politicized" and in some cases "monetized" their public service
Although at times he can be a PIA, this apparently was triggered by Rand Paul asking President Trump to do it.
July 23, 2018, 02:08 PM
lkdr1989
I still don't understand why their clearances hadn't been revoked...unless 6D chess-wise, seeing if they'd incriminate themselves?
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: Sarah Sanders today:
President Trump is looking at removing the security clearances of
Brennan Comey McCabe Clapper Rice Hayden
...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV
"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
July 23, 2018, 02:09 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: Sarah Sanders today:
President Trump is looking at removing the security clearances of
Brennan Comey McCabe Clapper Rice Hayden
They have "politicized" and in some cases "monetized" their public service
______________________________________________ "If the truth shall kill them, let them die.”
Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon.
July 23, 2018, 03:01 PM
Sigmund
quote:
Originally posted by braillediver: Iran is the Worlds Largest State Sponsor of Terrorism in the World. What President Trump said is Appropriate.
Totally appropriate, but it gave the media an excuse NOT to cover the weekend DOJ FISA document release which seems to embarrass the "intelligence community" even further.
July 23, 2018, 03:10 PM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: President Trump is looking at removing the security clearances of
Brennan Comey McCabe Clapper Rice Hayden
Why on earth do "former" anythings (pick a position) get to keep a security clearance? Granted, they no longer have a "need to know", but apparently that doesn't much matter anymore...
[/QUOTE]Why on earth do "former" anythings (pick a position) get to keep a security clearance? Granted, they no longer have a "need to know", but apparently that doesn't much matter anymore...[/QUOTE]
Aside from the Comey/McCabe situation, everyone gets to hold on to their clearance unless they did something bad. Having a clearance does not give you the “right to know”.
July 23, 2018, 03:41 PM
Pipe Smoker
I agree that those Zippy administration officials ought to have their clearances revoked because they have no “need to know”. But I don’t see that the revocation will impact them at all. Would be happy to be enlightened about that…
Serious about crackers.
July 23, 2018, 03:45 PM
PD
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker: I agree that those Zippy administration officials ought to have their clearances revoked because they have no “need to know”. But I don’t see that the revocation will impact them at all. Would be happy to be enlightened about that…
The DOJ needs to charge and convict them of something - then you can yank their clearance.
July 23, 2018, 04:20 PM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by PD:
quote:
Why on earth do "former" anythings (pick a position) get to keep a security clearance? Granted, they no longer have a "need to know", but apparently that doesn't much matter anymore...
Aside from the Comey/McCabe situation, everyone gets to hold on to their clearance unless they did something bad. Having a clearance does not give you the “right to know”.
They always seem to manage to get access though. And for the record "need to know" is technically the ONLY reason an individual should get access, there ain't no "right to know". As a former OCA(Original Classifying Authority), those types of terms matter, and are beaten into your head. Unless you're HRC...
Keeping your clearance is done through policy, it's not a legal matter.
ETA: Granted it would mostly be symbolic to remove their clearances.
Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way FacebookTwitterLinkedInShare Reprints 6/22/2017 Election 2016: Late in 2016, we created a stir by suggesting that Donald Trump was likely right when he claimed that millions of noncitizens had illegally voted in the U.S. election. Now, a study by a New Jersey think tank provides new evidence that that's what happened.
Last November, just weeks after his Electoral College win that gave him the presidency, then President-elect Donald Trump tweeted, "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."
The reaction was angry and swift, with the left accusing him of being an "internet troll" and of hatching a "Twitter-born conspiracy theory."
At the time, we noted that a group called True The Vote, an online anti-voter-fraud website, had claimed that illegals had cast three million votes last year. The media and left-wing groups immediately portrayed True The Vote as a fringe group with little credibility.
The only problem is, a study in 2014 in the online Electoral Studies Journal made a quite similar claim: In the 2008 and 2010 elections, they said, as many as 2.8 million illegal noncitizen votes were cast, "enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes and congressional elections," said the study, authored by Jesse T. Richman and Gushan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.
The bombshell was this: "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."
It got little coverage in the mainstream media, and what coverage it did get was almost entirely dismissive.
Now comes a new study by Just Facts, a libertarian/conservative think tank, that used data from a large Harvard/You.Gov study that every two years samples tens of thousands of voters, including some who admit they are noncitizens and thus can't vote legally.
The findings are eye-opening. In 2008, as many as 5.7 million noncitizens voted in the election. In 2012, as many as 3.6 million voted, the study said.
In 2016, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates that there were 21.0 million adult noncitizens in the U.S., up from 19.4 million in 2008. It is therefore highly likely that millions of noncitizens cast votes in 2016.
And it was no accident. Democrats had extensive get-out-the-vote campaigns in areas heavily populated by illegal aliens. As far back as 2008, Obama made sure that those who wanted to vote knew it was safe, announcing that election records would not be cross-checked with immigration databases.
And last year, the Obama White House supported a court injunction that kept Kansas, Alabama and Georgia from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote. The message was sent, loud and clear: If you're a noncitizen or here illegally, don't be afraid. You're free to vote. No one will stop you.
We don't know the exact number of illegal votes. No one does. But the data that are available suggest that the number of illegal votes was substantial — probably in the millions, as Trump said — and likely had a significant impact on the election's outcome.
Even Democrats should find this troubling; every vote cast by a noncitizen voter negates the vote of a citizen voter. It's that simple. It's time the Democratic Party started living up to its name and stop encouraging noncitizens and illegal aliens to vote in our election.
So is anything really being done to stop this, or is it a foregone conclusion that Democrats can count on millions of illegal votes?
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump.
July 23, 2018, 04:25 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by lkdr1989: I still don't understand why their clearances hadn't been revoked...unless 6D chess-wise, seeing if they'd incriminate themselves?
Just because you leave .gov service doesn't mean your clearance is revoked. It just means your access is gone, because you don't have anywhere or any need to look at classified stuff or talk about it.
Of course the solution is to get hired on by a company with contracts that deal with classified stuff (hence the value of a clearance), then you can look at stuff dealing with those kinds of contracts.
It's not like anyone on the list is still walking into their former place of employment and gaining access to stuff they used to work with.
I still think it's a good idea to pull their clearances in this case.
July 23, 2018, 04:50 PM
slosig
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic: I generally like the job Trump's doing, but then he goes and does stuff like this...
quote:
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!
Did you prefer the previous occupant of the office’s approach of French kissing Rouhani’s anal sphincter?
July 23, 2018, 05:39 PM
braillediver
Here's a young Donald Trump from 1980. You can see Trump today in that young man.
The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart.
July 23, 2018, 06:02 PM
ersatzknarf
quote:
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!
