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The Trump Presidency : Year II
July 17, 2018, 11:46 AM
Pipe SmokerThe Trump Presidency : Year II
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Originally posted by mbinky:
Rosenstein NEEDS to go. There will NEVER be any accountability as long as he is there obstructing. Let congress try to impeach, and if that fails Trump can just fire him after the election. <snip>
If President Trump fired Rosenstein, Mueller would hit him with an Obstruction of Justice charge, I suspect.
Serious about crackers. July 17, 2018, 11:59 AM
PASigI'm actually getting scoffed at today by Trump-supporting friends because I refuse to go along with this narrative that Trump fucked up in Helsinki.
I listened to Rush Limbaugh’s opening remarks at 12 noon and he sounds like what I’m thinking that Trump may want to say something here, but if he does the only thing you’re going to see are screaming headlines of BREAKING NEWS:” “Trump admits Russians helped him!” “Trump elected with Russian collusion!” “Trump Presidency now illegitimate!”
I don’t think this guy wants to give these bastards on the Left and in the media ONE GODDAMN INCH and I don’t blame him. He worked his ass off to get where he is and doesn’t want to let these leftists have any way to try and stop that.
Call me a defender or cheerleader, but that’s how I feel today about all this.
July 17, 2018, 12:03 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
Rosenstein NEEDS to go. There will NEVER be any accountability as long as he is there obstructing. Let congress try to impeach, and if that fails Trump can just fire him after the election. <snip>
If President Trump fired Rosenstein, Mueller would hit him with an Obstruction of Justice charge, I suspect.
I believe the weight of legal authority is that one does not obstruct justice by doing a lawful act, within one’s authority.
Here is one view.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/ob...nd-presidency-part-i
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown July 17, 2018, 12:13 PM
JALLENOne aspect of Trump’s modus operandi is that he is a salesman, first, last and always. Salesmen don’t sell by arguing with prospects, customers, nor are they graded, or paid, by being “right,” as long as they make the sale, sometimes termed “winning.” That may not always be a straight forward process.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown July 17, 2018, 12:21 PM
mbinkyGowdy is free to vote no on impeachment, as I suspect he probably will.
He makes for a good soundbite but is swamp to the core.
July 17, 2018, 12:24 PM
Ackksquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
I'm actually getting scoffed at today by Trump-supporting friends because I refuse to go along with this narrative that Trump fucked up in Helsinki.
I listened to Rush Limbaugh’s opening remarks at 12 noon and he sounds like what I’m thinking that Trump may want to say something here, but if he does the only thing you’re going to see are screaming headlines of BREAKING NEWS:” “Trump admits Russians helped him!” “Trump elected with Russian collusion!” “Trump Presidency now illegitimate!”
I don’t think this guy wants to give these bastards on the Left and in the media ONE GODDAMN INCH and I don’t blame him. He worked his ass off to get where he is and doesn’t want to let these leftists have any way to try and stop that.
Call me a defender or cheerleader, but that’s how I feel today about all this.
What exactly are people upset about? I honestly don't have a clue why anyone on the right would be upset at all today.
July 17, 2018, 12:27 PM
parabellumI'm fine
Fuck these people
bitch, bitch, bitch
It's meaningless
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July 17, 2018, 12:33 PM
Deqlynquote:
Originally posted by Ackks:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
I'm actually getting scoffed at today by Trump-supporting friends because I refuse to go along with this narrative that Trump fucked up in Helsinki.
I listened to Rush Limbaugh’s opening remarks at 12 noon and he sounds like what I’m thinking that Trump may want to say something here, but if he does the only thing you’re going to see are screaming headlines of BREAKING NEWS:” “Trump admits Russians helped him!” “Trump elected with Russian collusion!” “Trump Presidency now illegitimate!”
I don’t think this guy wants to give these bastards on the Left and in the media ONE GODDAMN INCH and I don’t blame him. He worked his ass off to get where he is and doesn’t want to let these leftists have any way to try and stop that.
Call me a defender or cheerleader, but that’s how I feel today about all this.
What exactly are people upset about? I honestly don't have a clue why anyone on the right would be upset at all today.
More people saber rattling about something they know fuck-all about. "Oh really, you'd deal with Putin how?" Just tell em to STFU they have no idea what the purpose of what he said is for. We can only enjoy the show.
What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin
Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke July 17, 2018, 12:36 PM
Ackksquote:
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
While I had a great meeting with NATO, raising vast amounts of money, I had an even better meeting with Vladimir Putin of Russia. Sadly, it is not being reported that way - the Fake News is going Crazy!
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Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Thank you @RandPaul. “The President has gone through a year and a half of totally partisan investigations - what’s he supposed to think?”
7:33 AM - 17 Jul 2018
At least Rand Paul gets it and is defending him.
July 17, 2018, 12:41 PM
Bigboreshooterquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
Gowdy is free to vote no on impeachment, as I suspect he probably will.
He makes for a good soundbite but is swamp to the core.
Yep. Ever since Hillary handed him his ass in her 2015 hearing, I've known that he is all show and no action. Now that he is on his way out the door, he will not do a single solitary thing. He probably thinks Sessions is doing a great job.
When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21
"Every nation in every region now has a decision to make.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush
July 17, 2018, 12:57 PM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
Yep. Ever since Hillary handed him his ass in her 2015 hearing, I've known that he is all show and no action. Now that he is on his way out the door, he will not do a single solitary thing. He probably thinks Sessions is doing a great job.
I believe they are all compromised, either with money or knowledge/proof of their vices, or both.
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July 17, 2018, 01:21 PM
PASigPresident Trump will be addressing the "press" regarding Helsinki in a press conference shortly.
This should be good.
July 17, 2018, 01:25 PM
braillediverThe Left is trying to criminalize Policy which is bullshit.
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July 17, 2018, 01:42 PM
JALLENA lot of the dispute has to do with the words used.
Meddle? Interfere? Collude?
It is one thing to assess that Russians were active in or during the election process. It is another to assess that Russians interfered with the election which implies a very significant difference in impact.
Collude? Some professor taking to some supporter resulting in a preposterous dossier. Please!
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown July 17, 2018, 01:53 PM
sdyPresident Trump says ‘I accept’ US intelligence agencies conclusions on Russian meddling.
July 17, 2018, 01:57 PM
P220 SmudgeAnd that’s the entire content of the article? I looked, and there’s no “read more” button to reveal an actual article, it’s simply a bare statement that only quotes two words and interjects the context. What’s their source? I mean, they’ve been absolutely stellar at accurately presenting everything else he’s said and done so far....
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July 17, 2018, 01:57 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
And that’s the entire content of the article? I looked, and there’s no “read more” button to reveal an actual article, it’s simply a bare statement that only quotes two words and interjects the context. What’s their source? I mean, they’ve been absolutely stellar at accurately presenting everything else he’s said and done so far....
Because President Trump just literally said that in his press conference a couple of minutes ago.
~Alan
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July 17, 2018, 01:59 PM
P220 SmudgeAs during the election, I’ll wait to see the entire, unedited clip before making any judgements on what he actually said.
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Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon.
July 17, 2018, 02:00 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
As during the election, I’ll wait to see the entire, unedited clip before making any judgements on what he actually said.
He said he "misspoke" in Helsinki. What else is there to gleam?
~Alan
Acta Non Verba
NRA Life Member (Patron)
God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
July 17, 2018, 02:03 PM
AckksHe said would when it should have been wouldn't. Big deal.