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The Trump Presidency : Year II
June 11, 2018, 06:06 PM
Skins2881The Trump Presidency : Year II
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He deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, just for the meeting. If nothing concrete comes from the meeting he will have still accomplished two things.
First a real opportunity to gauge where Kim is at. It's my belief the his nuclear ability was greatly diminished or mostly destroyed by the most recent test. He won't be losing much by giving it up (or hiding it better). I also think after millions upon millions of people starving to death is finally taking its toll and sanctions have worked to create pressure from within. He may be left with little other choice than to capitulate. Trump says he know within minutes of Kim is sincere, I hope he's that good.
Second if we walk away without deal, the groundwork and dialog will have been started. Both making it easier for round two knowing where each other stand and more importantly I think, giving the people a glimpse of what a prosperous unified or at least peaceful Korean peninsula might look like. Could you imagine having starved for decades, then have the prospect of Micky D's and KFCs on every corner? Hunger is a strong motivator, I think the North Koreans are ready to finally eat.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis June 11, 2018, 06:32 PM
ilikefirearmsKellyanne Conways husband wrote this. Wonder if she is getting fired or divorced?
https://lawfareblog.com/terrib...ueller-investigation
Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
June 11, 2018, 08:01 PM
slosigquote:
Originally posted by ilikefirearms:
Kellyanne Conways husband wrote this. Wonder if she is getting fired or divorced?
https://lawfareblog.com/terrib...ueller-investigation
Maybe neither. Time will tell.
June 11, 2018, 08:09 PM
BisleyblackhawkJust watched the greetings and handshakes between our President and Kim Jong Un...who could have seen this when President Trump took the oath of office...even if it doesn't prove to be fruitful...I wonder if Obama and the looser shrew are watching (I'm sure they are)...outside looking in
...so much WIN!
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June 11, 2018, 08:15 PM
olfuzzyThis will really frost the MSM's asses
SINGAPORE (AP) — President Donald Trump is sitting down with Fox News host Sean Hannity after his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
Fox News says the interview will take place Tuesday at the Capella Hotel on Sentosa Island in Singapore. Trump and Kim are set to meet on Sentosa Island on Tuesday morning for roughly 45 minutes while their entourages wait nearby.
The interview is set to air on Fox's "Hannity" at 9 p.m. Tuesday on the U.S. East Coast, which is 9 a.m. Wednesday in Singapore.
http://www.foxcarolina.com/sto...fter-summit-with-kimJune 11, 2018, 08:17 PM
mrwI am watching the meeting with my own two eyes but my brain just can not process what I am seeing. Absolutely unreal. When I voted for our President not long ago no way, I mean no way could I had imagined what I am seeing now. I know there is a chance it could all go stinky but jeez what the hell else will Trump pull off in the years to come. Seeing those two standing in frony of the NK and US flags, un freaking real.
June 11, 2018, 08:24 PM
sigmonkeyIt's not Nixon/China big. It's not Carter/Sadat/Begin big.
It's Trump/Kim Yuge!
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! June 11, 2018, 08:24 PM
jsbcodyquote:
Originally posted by mrw:
I am watching the meeting with my own two eyes but my brain just can not process what I am seeing. Absolutely unreal. When I voted for our President not long ago no way, I mean no way could I had imagined what I am seeing now. I know there is a chance it could all go stinky but jeez what the hell else will Trump pull off in the years to come. Seeing those two standing in frony of the NK and US flags, un freaking real.
It is amazing at what a non politician can accomplish....kind of the way it was with the founding fathers. We desperately need term limits, both parties just exist now to enrich themselves, their families, and friends.
June 11, 2018, 08:25 PM
AndybUn thinks Trump is cool.
"Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails."
"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." June 11, 2018, 08:39 PM
fpuhanquote:
Originally posted by Andyb:
Un thinks Trump is cool.
And he's right.
I LOL'd when I heard what a White House official said when asked what the Trump Doctrine was.
“The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine,” the official bluntly explained.
You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless.
NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member June 11, 2018, 08:52 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
This will really frost the MSM's asses
SINGAPORE (AP) — President Donald Trump is sitting down with Fox News host Sean Hannity after his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
Fox News says the interview will take place Tuesday at the Capella Hotel on Sentosa Island in Singapore. Trump and Kim are set to meet on Sentosa Island on Tuesday morning for roughly 45 minutes while their entourages wait nearby.
The interview is set to air on Fox's "Hannity" at 9 p.m. Tuesday on the U.S. East Coast, which is 9 a.m. Wednesday in Singapore.
http://www.foxcarolina.com/sto...fter-summit-with-kim
We’re lucky Sebastian Gorka is on Fox and not on Trump’s advisory staff. He’s making a fool of himself rattling on making Kim sound like some cave dweller clinging to a cave in the snow of North Korea, astonished by the bright lights, affluence and opulence he is encountering in Singapore.
Kim was educated in Switzerland, probably speaks reasonably good English at some level, is a connoisseur of expensive Cognacs and other luxuries.....
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown June 11, 2018, 09:02 PM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
Just watched the greetings and handshakes between our President and Kim Jong Un
I started watching after they'd already clasped hands, but from what I saw, Trump certainly won the body language/dominance show, repeatedly putting his and on Un, and also pointing him in the direction he needed to go. That's a difference between somebody who's spent a lifetime in meetings with other powerful folks v. the brutal child of a dictator, ruling cowering lackeys.
June 11, 2018, 09:16 PM
nhtagmemberfor the first time in his life, Un is meeting someone with real power
[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
June 11, 2018, 09:17 PM
sjtillI can't stop watching. It's like watching the first moon landing.
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June 11, 2018, 09:40 PM
parabellumTrump has succeeded in initiating talks between NK and the US because Donald Trump is not a career politician.
When we heard the first hints that talks might be possible, Obama's boy Ben Rhodes said that proper preparation for such a meeting would take eight or more months. Here are, what, nine, ten weeks out? And what do we see? Now there's a dose of reality for you, lefties.
President Trump knows how to cut through the bullshit, you arrogant Ivy League snobs.
And oh, I know- he's "under-prepared". Well, gosh, your
brilliant, dazzling crew had eight years to try to do this and you failed, if you tried at all. I guess you're still in the planning stage, huh?
And here's bumbling, incompetent, evil old Donald Trump getting it done in about the first 500 days of his administration. Gosh, how'd
that happen? Some kind of a fluke, huh? Strange.
So, I'll cast my lot with the man who knows how to get things done.
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"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
June 11, 2018, 09:49 PM
justjoeProfessional politicians, -- pumped up by their propagandists in the MSM-- have been a curse on this country.
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June 11, 2018, 09:50 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Trump has succeeded in initiating talks between NK and the US because Donald Trump is not a career politician.
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And here's bumbling, incompetent, evil old Donald Trump getting it done in about the first 500 days of his administration. Gosh, how'd that happen? Some kind of a fluke, huh? Strange.
So, I'll cast my lot with the man who knows how to get things done.
By coincidence, I happened to be perusing “12 Rules for Life.....” by Jordan Peterson earlier, and spotted this:
quote:
You can use words to manipulate the world into delivering what you want. This is what it means to “act politically.” This is spin. It’s the specialty of unscrupulous marketers, salesmen, advertisers, pickup artists, slogan-possessed utopians and psychopaths. It’s the speech people engage in when they attempt to influence and manipulate others. It’s what university students do when they write an essay to please the professor, instead of articulating and clarifying their own ideas. It’s what everyone does when they want something, and decide to falsify themselves to please and flatter. It’s scheming and sloganeering and propaganda.
Speaking plainly, truthfully, without guile is acceptable, maybe even preferable to most people if you are perceived as sincere, not hateful. Our culture depends too much on marketing, PR, manipulation.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown June 11, 2018, 09:58 PM
parabellumAlso, I just want to say- Dennis Rodman, you's a wild man, baby.
Dennis Rodman weeps with joy over Trump-Kim summit"...today is a great day for everybody. I'm so happy."
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"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
June 11, 2018, 10:05 PM
signewtquote:
Professional politicians, -- pumped up by their propagandists in the MSM-
....I ran across a term a while back that seems related in purpose and effect, in the porn film industry, same results from 'a fluffer'....
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June 11, 2018, 10:14 PM
SIG228quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Also, I just want to say- Dennis Rodman, you's a wild man, baby.
Dennis Rodman weeps with joy over Trump-Kim summit"...today is a great day for everybody. I'm so happy."
Love him or hate him, The Worm just kicked Obumer right in the cootch!