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The more I learn about this, the more I just want to tell him, sorry for your luck. He has live trapped about 25 over the years. His old home is among many trees and due to neglect and mother nature, the damn coons are living in the house. They enter at a roof overhang and go down inside. At this time they have downed the entire 1st floor ceiling. I can't imagine the mess inside as my friend is a serious horder. He has stuff piled up for years now. He rents in a condo so he isn't living with wild life. I have several Have a hearts traps available but no intention of relocating critters at my expense. I can't just pop them with Joe's Gamo rifle as it's not legal, much as I would like to. Not a clue on how to help. He wanted me to drown the critters in a rain barrel. What to do?
 
Posts: 18018 | Location: The Bluegrass State! | Registered: December 23, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Sounds like they have won.

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First thing the pros do is to install exclusion mesh where they're entering the house. Then, they trap 'em.

Are you sure it's not legal to shoot coons? Sure seems to contradict TN Code 70-4-115 :
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2021 Tennessee Code
Title 70 - Wildlife Resources
Chapter 4 - Miscellaneous Regulations
Part 1 - Hunting and Fishing
§ 70-4-115. Destruction and Disposal of Wildlife — Permit — Penalty
Universal Citation: TN Code § 70-4-115 (2021)

The owner of lands may destroy any wild animals, wild birds, or wild fowl when such wild animals, wild birds, or wild fowl are destroying property upon such lands. Any person, before destroying any big game under the conditions provided for in this section, is required to obtain a permit for destroying such big game. Such permit shall be issued by an officer of the wildlife resources agency.

Any big game killed or destroyed under the conditions provided for in this section shall remain the property of this state and may be disposed of by the officer of the commission by gift to any worthy recipient; provided, that any wild birds or wild animals killed accidentally or illegally shall be disposed of in the same manner and a receipt for the same obtained from the person or agency receiving such game.

Motorists are not required to report game accidentally killed by the operation of a motor vehicle. Notwithstanding any other provision of the law to the contrary, wild animals accidentally killed by a motor vehicle may be possessed by any person for personal use and consumption; except that, first, personal possession of a deer accidentally killed by a motor vehicle is permitted only if the person notifies the wildlife resources agency or any law enforcement officer within a reasonable time not to exceed forty-eight (48) hours and supplies that person's name and address; and second, personal possession of a bear accidentally killed by a motor vehicle is permitted only when authorized by an enforcement officer of the wildlife resources agency and the person is issued a kill tag. In deer-kill notification situations where a law enforcement officer rather than someone with the wildlife resources agency is notified, the law enforcement officer or the officer's designee shall be responsible for notifying someone with the wildlife resources agency and supplying the information relevant to the deer-kill. Nothing in this section authorizes possession of federally protected wildlife or wildlife protected by the state under chapter 8 of this title.

A violation of this section is a Class C misdemeanor.



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Maybe talk to your version of the fish and game. They might give permission to eradicate them. At least that is one option. They can do real damage and kill domestic animals.
They are nasty critters.
I had a friend who had a neighbor that had her finger bit clean off while trying to get her dog away from one.



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I think the coons are just doing what coons do.

I’d be more worried about your friend’s mental health issues and work your way out from there.

The “drowning raccoons in a rain barrel” idea is one of many other troubling internal thoughts he is having but not talking about out loud. The irony of using a Havahart trap to catch the coon before you drown them in a rain barrel is pithy.


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An Airedale will dispatch them pronto is they are on the ground. District Attorneys do not have a method of cross-examining an Airedale.


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as mentioned , fix the entrance, trap the ones left inside and relocate if possible,

I had a haveaheart trap out to catch a groundhog in my garden a few years ago, (fenced garden, but the bastard still found a way in)

caught a trash panda first, and ended up dumping the trap out on the other side of the property,

I think he had one foot hit the ground when I dumped him out and the second foot touched the ground 20 yrds away,

got the ground hog next night



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Posts: 10669 | Location: Beach VA,not VA Beach | Registered: July 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Dealing with a raccoon problem myself, but not that bad. I kept hearing them, they'd wake me up in the middle of the night, noises of them fighting and sometimes they'd sound like they were on the roof.

I got lucky and happened to see one going down my chimney one day. Wonderful.
I'm still not sure if they were living down there, or just using it for a latrine.
I started live trapping them in my back yard. It was very frustrating because I kept catching one (stray?) cat and an opossum over and over again. I knew this was highly likely and the reason I went with live traps. In the meantime, another "local" raccoon started visiting in the middle of the night, to fight or for romance I don't know, but all the commotion ended up destroying the brick and cement top of my chimney. (which had issues before, but didn't need the speedy disassembly it got from them)

I started with home made sweet baits recommended by a nuisance trapper online, with limited success. I then switched to discount/(several) day old donuts from the grocery store and $1 cherry pies. That worked well. I caught three of them with that. Dealing with them ("giving them the bad news") was never fun, but it's not legal to relocate wildlife. Even if I did I'd just be making it someone else's problem.

It was always early in the morning I had to deal with them as I was trying to leave for work.
Can't shoot them where I am. The method I used was putting the trap in a large trash bag, duct tape the end closed around a section of 2.5" hose, then slide it over the tailpipe of the car. About 20 minutes just for good measure. Then digging a deep hole. Like I said, not fun.

I took a break for a few reasons, schedule change and travel. I need to put the trail cameras out and bait the traps again. Make sure this is shorted out fully before hiring someone to repair the damage they made.
 
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If there are trees against the house, you have to take them down. Then mesh or repair the entrances to the house. Then live trap and release many miles away-not just on the other side of the property.

But I agree that your friend has bigger problems than coons.
 
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If the house in that bad of shape and he is anywhere near as bad the only hoarder I knew, then anything short of burning it to the ground will just be a waste of time. I would stay on the sidelines for this one.



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If the house in that bad of shape and he is anywhere near as bad the only hoarder I knew, then anything short of burning it to the ground will just be a waste of time. I would stay on the sidelines for this one.


Yep that's good advice, it's his home, he needs to hire a pro to seal it up and set traps, let them properly relocate if allowed.
 
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For the last couple of years I was live trapping the little bastards. Ended up relocating about 17 of them one year to a remote creek side property about 3 miles away. After catching about 10 of them I was worried that I was recatching them. I started giving them a little squirt of orange paint on their butts. And I never did recatch a single one that I could tell.
 
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They enter at a roof overhang and go down inside.

I had a similar problem with a raccoon living in my attic. It's no joke.
I trapped it, and several others, and disposed of them.



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For the last couple of years I was live trapping the little bastards

Before trapping and relocating (or other means of disposal) nuisance wild animals in your state, check the laws and legal requirements. They are usually very clear on the requirements and prohibitions.
 
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Sounds like time to get a welfare agency involved. Raccoons = Rabies.

Is there any value to the house? Perhaps the local fire department could use it for structure fire training.





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I think the coons are just doing what coons do.

I’d be more worried about your friend’s mental health issues and work your way out from there.

The “drowning raccoons in a rain barrel” idea is one of many other troubling internal thoughts he is having but not talking about out loud. The irony of using a Havahart trap to catch the coon before you drown them in a rain barrel is pithy.
The advantage of the no-kill traps is that it allows one to release critters that could be considered a "by-catch." We have an occasional rat (outside only, thank goodness) that I have no compunctions about destroying, but the traps also catch chipmunks, squirrels, and birds, which do little harm to me, so I can release them unharmed. I have had a chipmunk intentionally re-trigger a Havahart multiple times to get to the tasty bait (peanut butter on a Ritz).

Coons appear to be too smart to be caught, they just steal the bait and manage to avoid the trigger. But, if I caught one, I'd probably let it go, just as I did with the one fox I caught. One setting up shop in the house might be a different story.
 
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If he is a hoarder, that needs to be addressed as a likely root cause.
Likely all kinds of rodents attracted to that target rich environment.
 
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Horrible as it is, a drowning barrel is a common means of euthanizing nuisance trapped animals.

I used to know someone who did it professionally, I guess his customers had visions of him taking them and releasing them in some beautiful mountain meadow, while happy tranquil music played in the background.
(which would have been illegal)

Reality was a blue plastic water barrel in his back yard.
 
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Per KRS 150.170, landowners may deal with nuisance wildlife through scare tactics, repellents, fencing and exclusion, or removal via shooting or trapping.
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