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These cowards would shit themselves trying to claw their at out at the first shot. If my life, or my wife and children ere in danger, I'd make as many of those fuckers leak as I needed to.


You need not get in a frenzy. There is no risk of anyone springing a leak.

Their chance of encountering a gun carrier is about the same as encountering the Abominable Snowman.

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The permit holder who cannot think of ways to change his angle of fire to not hit bystanders should give the subject more thought.




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These cowards would shit themselves trying to claw their at out at the first shot. If my life, or my wife and children ere in danger, I'd make as many of those fuckers leak as I needed to.


You need not get in a frenzy. There is no risk of anyone springing a leak.

Their chance of encountering a gun carrier is about the same as encountering the Abominable Snowman.[/QUOTE]
Commiefornia will ensure these thugs won't have to answer for any of their depredations. Law abiding citizens-well they just have to take their beatings and move on.
 
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its Oakland

its acceptable to do that in California because that is how they earn a living



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The permit holder who cannot think of ways to change his angle of fire to not hit bystanders should give the subject more thought.


Possibly 76 in one subway car leaves little room for any movement. That many means they were at capacity. The capacity of a BERT car is 60 with a max "crush" load o0f two hundred.


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Professional victims. Most of these people will be victimized many more times in their lifetime - especially in a place like Oakland.
 
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[QUOTE]The images cannot be shared publicly, she said, because the suspects appear to be minors.


I cannot tell you how tired of this excuse.


From these type of "news sources", the only reason photos are not released to the public is because of the race of these criminals. I can guarantee if these minors were white, sfgate would publish images.

One would think that a modern-day takeover train robbery by dozens of perps would make front page national news, but unfortunately, does not fit the media's agenda.



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This is an interesting scenario. Confined space, packed with innocents, victims, and attackers. Attackers are operating with a mob mentality. Several could be armed as well and not afraid to fire into a crowd if threatened

What do you do? What do you do?


gut 'em like a fish


Yes. Over and over again.

Or maybe grab one and mag dump into its head til it explodes. Turn the car into a chum bucket.
 
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The permit holder who cannot think of ways to change his angle of fire to not hit bystanders should give the subject more thought.


Possibly 76 in one subway car leaves little room for any movement. That many means they were at capacity. The capacity of a BERT car is 60 with a max "crush" load o0f two hundred.


I doubt they were all on one single subway car.


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You folks also need to take into account that this place is the bay area. The chances of getting a CCW is virtually zero. So, I doubt anyone on that trains had a weapon.


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Yep, they knew they had little to fear. In other parts of the country, they would have more to fear. Smile


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These unlicensed dirtbag riders are getting bold. One cretin barreled into a suburban area two weeks ago fleeing police, ran OVER a little kid and her aunt, ditched the bike, carjacked a motorist, escaped, ditched the car and ran into surrounding woods.

Caught, thankfully, with a collapsed lung and other injuries.

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So, I doubt anyone on that trains had a weapon.


Think you left out the bad guys you don't care about the laws…





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The permit holder who cannot think of ways to change his angle of fire to not hit bystanders should give the subject more thought.


Ah yes...angle of fire! And if a thug lost the top if his head while being unable to move due to the crush factor, there might not be much of a mess till the container tipped over.

Lookee.. There is the top of Leroy's head stuck to the ceiling. No collateral damage.


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Are y'all familiar with Colin Flaherty? If not, then watch some of his vids on YouTube or read his books:

White Girl Bleed A Lot

Don't Make the Black Kids Angry

This shit has been going on all over this country for years. The media and law enforcement ignore it and lie about it even happening.


Jim and I are the two on this forum who keep mentioning Flaherty. And I'm always surprised at how many-- even in this well-informed forum-- don't know what has been going on for many years now. The scale of this attack-- 50 or more black teens-- is unusual, but not at all unprecedented. Otherwise, this kind of thing happens all across the country on pretty much a daily basis. The so called "media" ignores these stories, and sometimes actively suppresses them. As a result, these racist attacks, black-on-white, continue, and grow in number and in size.

Eventually it will get to a scale that cannot be hushed and hidden. But a whole lot of innocent white people-- these attacks are unprovoked-- are going to get seriously hurt before that happens.


I own and have read White Girl Bleed Alot. Eye-opening to be sure, Another good one is Code of the Street by Elijah Anderson.




 
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Reality is these mobs of ghetto youth seek the victims that offer the least resistance, the people in San Fran and Oakland have allowed themselves through the choice of leaders to be victims.

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These same mobs have a history of giving an absolute beat down to anyone who resists. Punching, kicking, hitting with any makeshift weapon available.

It's a predatory pack animal mentality. You may get one or two but you can't get all of them as they mob over you from all sides. Hurt one of them and you will pay

Remember they BELIEVE what they are doing is right, and you have NO right to resist them.




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Originally posted by oddball:....From these type of "news sources", the only reason photos are not released to the public is because of the race of these criminals. I can guarantee if these minors were white, sfgate would publish images.

One would think that a modern-day takeover train robbery by dozens of perps would make front page national news, but unfortunately, does not fit the media's agenda.


Can you say double standard??




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What would be the media coverage if the accused robbers had been Asian gang members from Stockton? Would they withhold photos and names?

As a CCW holder who uses Bart once or twice a month, i'd carry if my employer would allow it. And I don't feel like leaving it in my car in the Bart parking lot. I've been on Bart cars with just a few riders. It'd be easy where a large group could swarm and overwhelm victims. And in CA you'd have to prove your life was in danger and I'm sure a local jury wouldn't see robbery as a reason to shoot.


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