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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
You need not get in a frenzy. There is no risk of anyone springing a leak. Their chance of encountering a gun carrier is about the same as encountering the Abominable Snowman.This message has been edited. Last edited by: JALLEN, Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Freethinker |
The permit holder who cannot think of ways to change his angle of fire to not hit bystanders should give the subject more thought. ► 6.4/93.6 ___________ “We are Americans …. Together we have resisted the trap of appeasement, cynicism, and isolation that gives temptation to tyrants.” — George H. W. Bush | |||
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Brass Pounder |
You need not get in a frenzy. There is no risk of anyone springing a leak. Their chance of encountering a gun carrier is about the same as encountering the Abominable Snowman.[/QUOTE] Commiefornia will ensure these thugs won't have to answer for any of their depredations. Law abiding citizens-well they just have to take their beatings and move on. | |||
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Political Cynic |
its Oakland its acceptable to do that in California because that is how they earn a living [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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When you fall, I will be there to catch you -With love, the floor |
Possibly 76 in one subway car leaves little room for any movement. That many means they were at capacity. The capacity of a BERT car is 60 with a max "crush" load o0f two hundred. | |||
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Professional victims. Most of these people will be victimized many more times in their lifetime - especially in a place like Oakland. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
From these type of "news sources", the only reason photos are not released to the public is because of the race of these criminals. I can guarantee if these minors were white, sfgate would publish images. One would think that a modern-day takeover train robbery by dozens of perps would make front page national news, but unfortunately, does not fit the media's agenda. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Yes. Over and over again. Or maybe grab one and mag dump into its head til it explodes. Turn the car into a chum bucket. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
I doubt they were all on one single subway car. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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You folks also need to take into account that this place is the bay area. The chances of getting a CCW is virtually zero. So, I doubt anyone on that trains had a weapon. Glock 19 HK P2000sk Sig P226 Spikes AR15 Middy CA94 MP5 clone | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Yep, they knew they had little to fear. In other parts of the country, they would have more to fear. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Too bad he isn't paralyzed. | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Think you left out the bad guys you don't care about the laws… "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Ah yes...angle of fire! And if a thug lost the top if his head while being unable to move due to the crush factor, there might not be much of a mess till the container tipped over. Lookee.. There is the top of Leroy's head stuck to the ceiling. No collateral damage. EasyFire [AT] zianet.com ---------------------------------- NRA Certified Pistol Instructor Colorado Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor Nationwide Agent for > US LawShield > https://www.texaslawshield.com...p.php?promo=ondemand CCW Safe > www.ccwsafe.com/CCHPI | |||
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Back, and to the left |
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Member |
I own and have read White Girl Bleed Alot. Eye-opening to be sure, Another good one is Code of the Street by Elijah Anderson. | |||
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Member |
Reality is these mobs of ghetto youth seek the victims that offer the least resistance, the people in San Fran and Oakland have allowed themselves through the choice of leaders to be victims. Liberalism is a significant mental disorder. | |||
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Coin Sniper |
These same mobs have a history of giving an absolute beat down to anyone who resists. Punching, kicking, hitting with any makeshift weapon available. It's a predatory pack animal mentality. You may get one or two but you can't get all of them as they mob over you from all sides. Hurt one of them and you will pay Remember they BELIEVE what they are doing is right, and you have NO right to resist them. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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No double standards |
Can you say double standard?? "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Member |
What would be the media coverage if the accused robbers had been Asian gang members from Stockton? Would they withhold photos and names? As a CCW holder who uses Bart once or twice a month, i'd carry if my employer would allow it. And I don't feel like leaving it in my car in the Bart parking lot. I've been on Bart cars with just a few riders. It'd be easy where a large group could swarm and overwhelm victims. And in CA you'd have to prove your life was in danger and I'm sure a local jury wouldn't see robbery as a reason to shoot. P229 | |||
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