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Baltimore prepares for protests (Freddie Gray case) Update: 4th Circuit Appeals blocks suit vs Mosby
July 27, 2016, 12:12 PM
oldRogerBaltimore prepares for protests (Freddie Gray case) Update: 4th Circuit Appeals blocks suit vs Mosby
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She needs to be disbarred. At the very least.
+1, I think so too, but what I think will happen, instead of what should, is that she will use her diatribe as a kick off for higher office.
I don't doubt a bit that we will eventually see her as Mayor, Governor, or Senator fairly soon. Evidently the majority of voters of Baltimore and Maryland are none too bright.
July 27, 2016, 01:23 PM
sdyAs so many times it occurs, you can't really appreciate Mosby's comments today w/o watching the video
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016...-no-convictions.htmlThis is one hysterically angry person.
She really takes a shot at Judge Williams.
July 27, 2016, 01:24 PM
fwbulldog“They lied and I know they lied and they killed him,” Darden said. The family received a $6.4m settlement from the city.
Do the police officers have any recourse when this kind of accusation is made in the media?
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July 27, 2016, 01:33 PM
Icabodquote:
Originally posted by fwbulldog:
“They lied and I know they lied and they killed him,” Darden said. The family received a $6.4m settlement from the city.
Do the police officers have any recourse when this kind of accusation is made in the media?
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A civil suit would no doubt allow the family to bring up the entire case. In effect, the offices would be retried all over again. As memory serves its the preponderance of the facts that is the standard.
“ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. July 27, 2016, 01:37 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
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Originally posted by fwbulldog:
“They lied and I know they lied and they killed him,” Darden said. The family received a $6.4m settlement from the city.
Do the police officers have any recourse when this kind of accusation is made in the media?
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A civil suit would no doubt allow the family to bring up the entire case. In effect, the offices would be retried all over again. As memory serves its the preponderance of the facts that is the standard.
According to what sdy posted before, the settlement agreement with the city bars further civil suit.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown July 27, 2016, 01:52 PM
mbinkyI have no doubt Mosby will follow the Foo-Moo principal (F**c Up Move Up). I'm sure she has been shopping her resume at the DNC convention.
July 27, 2016, 02:05 PM
c1stevequote:
Originally posted by sdy:
As so many times it occurs, you can't really appreciate Mosby's comments today w/o watching the video
This is one hysterically angry person.
When I watch the video, I see an actress. All that apparent anger appears to me to be just an act. Some people believe her and similar statements. The mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, has a somewhat similar attitude. However her campaign for re-election went nowhere. Perhaps Mosby also, disbarred or not, will disappear.
-c1steve
July 27, 2016, 02:19 PM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by mbinky:...I hope their legal suits take down Mosby and the corrupt Baltimore city government.
That would be great, but probably the next Baltimore city gov't would be just as corrupt.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 July 27, 2016, 02:59 PM
ArtieSquote:
Special kudos to Judge Barry Williams.
I posted early on in this thread that the prosecutors had shopped this case and could not have found a judge with a more favorable background to hear this case. Trial attorney in the civil rights division of the U.S. Department of Justice, 1997-2002. Special litigation counsel for the civil rights division of the U.S. Justice Department, 2002-2005.
He proved that there are still SOME people in the system with integrity who refuse to go along with the mob and actually do their job.
The director of the FBI could learn from this guy.
Kudos Judge Williams.
This needs to be repeated, particularly as I felt the same way. I thought he was going to roll over for the prosecution.
Judge Williams did a stand up job.
"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."
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July 27, 2016, 03:11 PM
jljonesAll charges dropped? Part of me wants to say "Duh, do you think?".
Now here's hoping they go after Mosley.
July 27, 2016, 03:14 PM
Loaded RoundBest news I've heard today.
July 27, 2016, 03:30 PM
jsbcodyI watched the video of the Mosby's statement. Yeah that was a rational statement from a distinguished prosecutor....NOT.....I have heard more rational comments from two and three year olds having a temper tantrum. What a train wreck. Anyone decent still living or working in Baltimore needs to run from there like it is the end of the world and walking dead have arrived.
July 27, 2016, 03:35 PM
parabellumThe display of anger and self-righteousness allows her to avoid addressing the truth of the matter. Railing against The Man. Right on, sister. Fight the power.
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July 27, 2016, 03:41 PM
rduckworApparently, she thought SHE WAS the power. Wrong!
Disbar, do not pass go.
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July 27, 2016, 03:44 PM
fiasconvaIf I act mad enough and maybe they won't figure out how badly I screwed up. It's not my fault!
"Even if the world were perfect it wouldn't be." ... Yogi Berra July 27, 2016, 03:46 PM
darthfusterWatching her tyrant tantrum turns my stomach. She prefers to lie and be lied to than face the fact that Freddie grey likely injured himself while having his own tantrum.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier July 27, 2016, 04:33 PM
BB61quote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
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Special kudos to Judge Barry Williams.
I posted early on in this thread that the prosecutors had shopped this case and could not have found a judge with a more favorable background to hear this case. Trial attorney in the civil rights division of the U.S. Department of Justice, 1997-2002. Special litigation counsel for the civil rights division of the U.S. Justice Department, 2002-2005.
He proved that there are still SOME people in the system with integrity who refuse to go along with the mob and actually do their job.
The director of the FBI could learn from this guy.
Kudos Judge Williams.
This needs to be repeated, particularly as I felt the same way. I thought he was going to roll over for the prosecution.
Judge Williams did a stand up job.
How did they shop for him? In my state the computer randomly assigns the judge. Period. Historically, you could go in with multiple complaints and ask who was next on the roster and then file them as you wanted but not anymore.
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July 27, 2016, 05:22 PM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by darthfuster:
Watching her tyrant tantrum turns my stomach. She prefers to lie and be lied to than face the fact that Freddie grey likely injured himself while having his own tantrum.
Bolding mine, but I think that is the key to the whole ugly episode.
Seems a perfect fit to a quote I found recently (Dostoevsky) along the lines of "People tell lies to protect/promote their egos. Then they start believing their own lies. Soon they can no longer discern the truth from the lie and become degenerate.
Seems all too common in society today, especially in politics. People tell palpable lies, and willingly swallow such lies, to promote their own agenda. The truth no longer matters.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 July 27, 2016, 05:51 PM
BamaJeepsterquote:
Originally posted by BB61:
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Originally posted by ArtieS:
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Special kudos to Judge Barry Williams.
I posted early on in this thread that the prosecutors had shopped this case and could not have found a judge with a more favorable background to hear this case. Trial attorney in the civil rights division of the U.S. Department of Justice, 1997-2002. Special litigation counsel for the civil rights division of the U.S. Justice Department, 2002-2005.
He proved that there are still SOME people in the system with integrity who refuse to go along with the mob and actually do their job.
The director of the FBI could learn from this guy.
Kudos Judge Williams.
This needs to be repeated, particularly as I felt the same way. I thought he was going to roll over for the prosecution.
Judge Williams did a stand up job.
How did they shop for him?
Actually back on page 6 when I originally posted who the judge was, I said:
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The prosecution could have shopped this across the country and not found a better judge for them.
When I posted the kudos today I just posted that the prosecutors had shopped the case rather than 'they couldn't have shopped for a better judge'. In other words, I don't know if they have the ability to shop for judges there or not. I know in some jurisdictions it is definitely still possible for prosecutors to manipulate the schedule to get a particular judge, but have no idea if they did that in this case.
Bottom line, his background was exactly what the prosecutors were looking for, but he had the integrity to actually look at the (lack of) evidence and apply the law and arrive at just verdicts. That is certainly not a given in this day and age and he should be applauded for resisting the tremendous pressure he was under from that community, which he has to live in every day.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams July 27, 2016, 06:08 PM
sdyCNN interview w Baltimore mayor. She disagrees w how Mosby made her statement today.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/poli...sby-reaction-sot.cnnRawlings-Blake said a bench trial choice is part of our legal process. Doesn't mean the system is rigged.
RB also questioned why Mosby said she needed an independent investigatory group, when that is exactly what Mosby claimed she did.