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Baltimore prepares for protests (Freddie Gray case) Update: 4th Circuit Appeals blocks suit vs Mosby
May 20, 2016, 02:50 PM
KevinCWBaltimore prepares for protests (Freddie Gray case) Update: 4th Circuit Appeals blocks suit vs Mosby
Reading this past week I don't think there is any way there is a conviction.
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jsbcodyquote:
Originally posted by KevinCW:
Reading this past week I don't think there is any way there is a conviction.
I am thinking the same thing.....and then I remembered this Baltimore and a kangaroo court so I won't be surprised if there is a conviction (that will eventually be overturned).
May 20, 2016, 03:18 PM
gw3971quote:
Originally posted by jsbcody:
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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Reading this past week I don't think there is any way there is a conviction.
I am thinking the same thing.....and then I remembered this Baltimore and a kangaroo court so I won't be surprised if there is a conviction (that will eventually be overturned).
No conviction on the evidence in this case. But the politics of fear may change the judges mind. Kangaroo court indeed.
May 20, 2016, 03:28 PM
Chris AnchorWe are on alert for whatever comes down from the court on Monday. I feel from hearing local news reports plus a live feed in the court room the officer will get at least one conviction just to say they didn't let him walk. But most of the folks I talk to in Baltimore's inner city feel the family got paid so on with life. It's BLM crew that will cause trouble with the young ones following along. Chris
May 20, 2016, 04:08 PM
sdyThe prosecutors had gone to the Maryland Court of Appeals to force Officer Porter to testify against all 5 of the other officers. Even though Porter himself will be tried later this year.
The MD court agreed w the prosecutors. Today the MD Court of Appeals released their full report on that decision.
there are 7 judges on the MD Court of Appeals
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160520-story.html Maryland's highest court on Friday issued its full written opinion explaining why it ruled prosecutors can compel Baltimore Police Officer William Porter to testify against fellow officers
The judges' ruling was unanimous , and unequivocally affirmed prosecutors' arguments that -- though never before employed -- state law allowed prosecutors to compel testimony from a defendant against co-defendants after granting limited immunity.
"We hold that the State's compelling Officer Porter to testify in the trials of his fellow officers, under the grant of use and derivative use immunity, does not violate Officer Porter's privilege against compelled self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article 22 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights," wrote Chief Judge Mary Ellen Barbara in the 51-page opinion.
"If [Porter's] testimony is not relevant or is otherwise inadmissible, Defendants may object on those bases if and when Officer Porter takes the stand," Barbara wrote, adding that
the court found that "not one" of Porter's arguments against testifying "has merit.". one of the defense arguments was that everyone in Baltimore would know what Porter said in the other trials. His right to the 5th in his trial would be destroyed by jury pool poisoningMay 20, 2016, 06:06 PM
gearhoundsWith the judge running roughshod over the prosecution, I can see no way for a conviction here.
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Mainframe Coderquote:
Originally posted by sdy:
The prosecutors had gone to the Maryland Court of Appeals to force Officer Porter to testify against all 5 of the other officers. Even though Porter himself will be tried later this year.
The MD court agreed w the prosecutors. Today the MD Court of Appeals released their full report on that decision.
there are 7 judges on the MD Court of Appeals
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160520-story.html Maryland's highest court on Friday issued its full written opinion explaining why it ruled prosecutors can compel Baltimore Police Officer William Porter to testify against fellow officers
The judges' ruling was unanimous , and unequivocally affirmed prosecutors' arguments that -- though never before employed -- state law allowed prosecutors to compel testimony from a defendant against co-defendants after granting limited immunity.
"We hold that the State's compelling Officer Porter to testify in the trials of his fellow officers, under the grant of use and derivative use immunity, does not violate Officer Porter's privilege against compelled self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article 22 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights," wrote Chief Judge Mary Ellen Barbara in the 51-page opinion.
"If [Porter's] testimony is not relevant or is otherwise inadmissible, Defendants may object on those bases if and when Officer Porter takes the stand," Barbara wrote, adding that
the court found that "not one" of Porter's arguments against testifying "has merit.". one of the defense arguments was that everyone in Baltimore would know what Porter said in the other trials. His right to the 5th in his trial would be destroyed by jury pool poisoning
I think, long term, this is a win-win for our side. Let them force Porter to testify. It is going to backfire in their face.
May 23, 2016, 08:00 AM
braillediverThis might be the start of the summer of love 2016?
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May 23, 2016, 09:59 AM
sdyNot guilty all 4 charges
Judge Williams made the just call. Good for him. Sad that it got this far.
Judge Williams said state failed to prove Nero acted unreasonably. Stressed Miller testimony that he alone stopped and cuffed Gray
Judge Williams stressed findings pertained to Nero only, that all he was judging were facts as presented by state against Nero.
May 23, 2016, 10:09 AM
parabellumBaltimore can suck on it.
No matter what Baltimore gov't says right now, if they're not embarrassed, then they are as stupid as they appear to be.
May 23, 2016, 10:11 AM
BamaJeepsterKudos to the judge. This could not have been an easy call for him given his background, but given the evidence presented he really had no option. The prosecution literally had nothing to even hint at guilt.
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ArLEOretHappy he got off. Back to work?
Can the prosecution be tried for misconduct. They need to be disbarred, the whole damn bunch!
Officers lives matter!
May 23, 2016, 10:14 AM
parabellumTime to get back to the business of running a city government. Stop fucking with the police. Stop pandering to black criminals and malcontents, you disgusting excuses for human beings. Shame on you idiots.
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May 23, 2016, 10:19 AM
ArtieSYES!!!!!
Bite the bitter fruit, Mosby!
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May 23, 2016, 10:24 AM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Time to get back to the business of running a city government.
...into the ground, sadly.
May 23, 2016, 10:31 AM
gw3971no justice no peace. I wonder how many blocks will be allowed to burn for those who want to protest and destroy?
May 23, 2016, 10:45 AM
spunk639Hope the BPD and MSP have plans for this or more rioting is going to occur.
May 23, 2016, 10:51 AM
BBMWWould you go back to work there? I'd negotiate a separation that would give me the best chance of getting on a force somewhere else.
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Originally posted by ArLEOret:
Happy he got off. Back to work?
Can the prosecution be tried for misconduct. They need to be disbarred, the whole damn bunch!
May 23, 2016, 10:51 AM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by parabellum:
Time to get back to the business of running a city government.
...into the ground, sadly.
Sadly, they will likely be the authors of their own demise. More sadly, they will likely not connect the dots.
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sdyCourtroom for #NeroTrial was packed.
One notable absence: Marilyn Mosby A statement from Baltimore Police on Officer Nero's status:
"Although the criminal case against Officer Edward Nero has come to a close, the internal investigation has not. With that, Officer Nero's status will remain unchanged. He will remain in an administrative capacity while this investigation continues.
The internal investigation is being handled by other police departments. The internal investigation will not be completed until all of the criminal cases against the other five officers are completed because they will likely be witnesses in each case."
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how many resources will they waste on an open and shut case ?