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Mckesson's prominence in the Black Lives Matter movement has made him a sought-after endorsement in this year's race for the Democratic presidential nomination. He has met with both Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders, as well as White House Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett.


What has become of our country?



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Stop asking this question in all its forms: What's wrong with people? What's wrong with our country? What's wrong with modern society? What's wrong what's wrong what's wrong what's wrong.

What's wrong is a lack of originality in commentary.

Also...

We're screwed. We're doomed. We're toast. yaddayaddayadda.

Stop it. It's boring. It's unoriginal. It adds nothing to the dialogue.

Be original. Contribute a thought, not a platitude.
 
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Mosby's response, filed this week by an assistant attorney general, says prosecutors are "policymakers" and "alter egos" of Mosby and that case law supports an elected official's right to fire such employees who have a different viewpoint.

"… Ms. Mosby had every right to expect that a person in Ms. Borzilleri's position would be loyal without qualification and would publicly support her in full," Assistant Attorney General Bradley J. Neitzel wrote in a motion to dismiss the lawsuit.
Is this bitch completely off her meds! That is some really delusional nonsense right there. Somebody needs to can this mentally retarded loser. Mad

Sounds like she's a real 'Constitutional Scholar'.....Her future career path might be just down the road a bit in Washington, DC! Roll Eyes


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The defense for Officer Nero is lining up expert witnesses. The prosecutors are fighting having the experts testify. I post a lot on this case, but it really makes me sick to keep reading this stuff.

By keeping as many people as possible informed of the corrupt Baltimore prosecutors, it may help the 6 accused officers and other police around the country.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160204-story.html

Among the witnesses expected to be called in the defense of Officer Edward M. Nero in his upcoming trial in the Freddie Gray case are the professor hand-picked by the prosecutor's office last year to train Baltimore officers on the laws surrounding suspect stops , as well as the former head of the prosecutor's criminal strategy division who requested police step up drug enforcement on the corner where Gray was initially chased by police.

Also on the list are the head of the police department's investigation into Gray's arrest and death, several of the investigators who participated in that review, and other officers who were at the scene of Gray's arrest and who were given immunity by prosecutors to testify before the grand jury that indicted Nero and the five other officers charged in the case.

A key issue in Nero's case is whether he and the other arresting officers had reasonable suspicion and probable cause to stop and arrest Gray. The prosecution has said there was no reason to stop Gray.

The defense has said reasonable suspicion to stop him was established in part when Gray ran unprovoked from officers in a known drug area. To bolster that claim, they have cited an email sent to Western District police prior to Gray's arrest by Joshua Rosenblatt, the then-criminal strategy head in the office of Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby.

In the email, Rosenblatt asked police to target the corner where Gray was spotted for enhanced drug enforcement.

In the new filing, prosecutors from Mosby's office asked the court to block Rosenblatt, now the law instructor at the city police academy, and Professor Byron Warnken, the academic Mosby's office contracted to train officers on legal suspect stops, from providing opinions about laws surrounding such stops — arguing that jurors should rely on the law alone in deciding whether Nero broke it.

prosecutors asked the court to prevent the witnesses from providing "lay opinion that backdoors expert opinion" about the reasonableness of Nero's actions.

At Porter's trial, several of the witnesses testified that they considered themselves reasonable, and that Porter had acted similarly to how they would have acted.

"Allowing a witness to self-identify as 'reasonable' and then align his actions with that of the Defendant would merely permit the jury to be prejudiced by irrelevant, misleading testimony by someone without the qualifications to opine about the objective reasonableness of the Defendant's actions," the prosecutors argued.

Judge Barry G. Williams has yet to rule on the motion.


adding: Remember in the first trial against Porter, the prosecutors brought in multiple people to discuss training. Now they think the defense shouldn't be allowed to do the same thing
 
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arguing that jurors should rely on the law alone in deciding whether Nero broke it.


But the question becomes how that law was interpreted, and the training of Police Officers implemented, by the witnesses being subpoenaed.


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The whole BLM movement (and their political and MSM tit hangers) are loosing a great deal of their thunder (when they bitched about the Paris terrorist attacks diverting attention from them as an example)...the current news cycle is not including them anymore...
This case is so important to them to try and keep the whole BLM and "hate all things police" movement moving forward...it is their last and greatest hope in being relevant...
If this fiasco in Baltimore does turn out their way...and so far it hasn't...Mosby and the rest of the prosecution will fade away into obscurity and be remembered for their failure...that is what the whole lot of them fear...
The law and the concept of a fair trial mean nothing to them.


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Speaking of Mosby, she ruined my lunch the other day when her and the 2- US Marshals protecting her showed up where the wife and I were eating.

I could not stop thinking about how ridiculous it is for her to have 2 Marshals protecting her sorry a$$ and who gets to pay for it.
 
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Speaking of Mosby, she ruined my lunch the other day when her and the 2- US Marshals protecting her showed up where the wife and I were eating.

I could not stop thinking about how ridiculous it is for her to have 2 Marshals protecting her sorry a$$ and who gets to pay for it.



Why is a Federal U S Marshall protecting a City official?


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Maybe she's a candidate for their Witless Protection Program.



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Maybe she's a candidate for their Witless Protection Program.


Or the next Secretary of State.

Her mind is a terrible thing to waste Big Grin UNCF


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When is someone going to step in and squash these prosecutors ? They did it again.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160205-story.html

Appeal by prosecutors could further delay trials in Freddie Gray case

The trial schedule for the Baltimore police officers charged in the arrest and death of Freddie Gray — already thrown off course by a legal appeal — could be delayed months more.

Prosecutors gave notice this week that they intend to file an appeal in an attempt to force Officer William G. Porter to testify in the trials of three of his fellow officers. Officer Edward M. Nero's trial is scheduled for Feb. 22, and Garrett E. Miller and Lt. Brian W. Rice are both supposed to be tried in March.

If the matter is taken up by the Court of Special Appeals, it could delay the trial schedule significantly, according to appellate experts. The court would have to allow time for each side to file briefs before hearing oral arguments, and then could take months to reach a decision.

The trial schedule was already thrown off last month, when the Court of Special Appeals intervened in the trials of two other officers — Officer Caesar R. Goodson Jr. and Sgt. Alicia D. White. Porter's attorneys had appealed a decision by Circuit Judge Barry G. Williams to force Porter to testify in those trials.

The higher court is set to hear arguments in Porter's appeal in March, and could take months to decide, experts have said.

This time, the prosecution is appealing a contrasting decision by the judge last month, in which Williams refused to force Porter to testify in the upcoming trials of Nero, Miller and Rice.

The state filed notice of its intention to appeal in Baltimore Circuit Court Thursday.

Williams on Jan. 20 rejected a request by the prosecutors to call Porter to the witness stand in the trials of Nero, Miller and Rice. In doing so, Williams questioned prosecutors' motives, saying they appeared to have a "dual purpose" for making the late request — one being to stall the trials.

When the Court of Special Appeals took up Porter's appeal of that decision, and the trials of Goodson and White were postponed, Williams sought to move forward with the trials of Nero, Miller and Rice.

Then, at the Jan. 20 hearing, prosecutors argued that Porter was a witness in those officers' trials as well. Prosecutors said that they had not previously contemplated calling Porter as a witness in those cases, but adjusted their strategy after Porter's mistrial.

"We tried to learn something from our experience in trying Officer Porter," Chief Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow told Williams at the time. "We think we have the right to change our mind, and we acknowledge we are changing our mind."

Joseph Murtha, an attorney for Porter, balked at that idea, calling the prosecution's sudden decision to call his client to testify at the Nero, Miller and Rice trials a "disingenuous pretext for the purpose of getting a postponement."

Attorneys for Nero, Miller and Rice spoke only briefly at the hearing, but argued in filings that the state was attempting to "avoid trying the most factually and legally tenuous cases first."

Williams sided with the defense attorneys, denying the prosecution's requests to compel Porter to the stand in the latter three officers' trials.

In denying the prosecution's request, Williams had questioned whether Porter's statements about the other officers' actions were "admissible and relevant," noting Porter said he had turned away from the van to deal with a growing crowd while the other officers handled Gray.

Williams also chastised prosecutors for not concluding earlier that Porter would be a witness at "every single case," a criticism that appeared rooted in the rules of discovery requiring prosecutors to disclose witnesses.

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my speculation : the prosecutors are terrified that Nero would be fully acquitted in February. They are trying to delay his trial.
 
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Artists renderings from the first Trial of Officer Porter, District Attorney Mosby is seen pumping the bellows at the Baltimore City Cauldron:

 
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my speculation : the prosecutors are terrified that Nero would be fully acquitted in February. They are trying to delay his trial.


I think their whole case is a house of cards.
Can they prove that Gray's death was not self inflicted? There have been many inmates who have injured themselves to be disruptive,delay jail,or get narcotics from a hospital.

Also when is Mosby's husband's election for Mayor?
She may be trying to gain delays until he is elected. How in the hell can the Officer's get a fair trial in this place?

http://madamenoire.com/595237/...-mayor-of-baltimore/

Nick Mosby has been serving as a Baltimore City Councilman for the past four years. But now he has his sights set on the next level.

Yesterday, with his wife and two daughters standing beside him, Mosby announced that he was running for mayor of the city of Baltimore.

In addition to being married to the fabulous Marilyn Mosby, the state attorney handling the Freddie Gray case, Mosby gained notoriety when he told Fox News the rioting in Baltimore was “decades’ [worth] of anger and frustration for a system that has failed them. ” He likened the rioting to the ones at the University of Kentucky when they lost a football game.

Yesterday, standing in front of 350 voters, Mosby said that he came from Baltimore and knew the best and worst the city has to offer.

And with that firsthand knowledge, he had a question for the crowd:

“Are you willing to fight for a better Baltimore? Are we willing to fight against poverty, against illiteracy? Are we ready to fight to provide a world-class education for every single child in this city?”

During the press conference, he presented the goals of his campaign, fighting crime, reducing homelessness and improving city schools. He also said he intends to equip every police officer with a body camera.

He said, “Collectively, we can change every block, every corner, every neighborhood. I need your help starting today.”

The Baltimore Sun reported that Mosby’s announcement has some wondering if a successful bid for mayor would represent a conflict of interest. As mayor he would be in charge of the $38 million budget for his wife’s office and her 300 employees.


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Thanks for all the updates. I find this entire travesty of justice interesting as well as extremely educational.


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This link shows a series of short videos of the Freddie Gray arrest. Not much new here, but it does provide some context of the initial arrest.

I didn't know Baltimore had these kind of cameras.

http://data.baltimoresun.com/freddie-gray-cctv/


On April 12, Freddie Gray was arrested by police while running through West Baltimore. Many of the events of that day were captured on police surveillance cameras – part of a citywide system of more than 600 cameras.

Here are some highlights of what cameras captured of the Gray pursuit and arrest before local residents pulled out their cell phones.


Hit START to begin and then click the arrows to step to each time sequence video.
 
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my speculation : the prosecutors are terrified that Nero would be fully acquitted in February. They are trying to delay his trial.
Its the domino effect playing out. The prosecution can't afford 'any' losses or this whole house of cards falls apart. As such, the game plan seems to be delay, delay, delay, and hope something changes.


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Attorney General asks state's highest court to intervene in Freddie Gray cases

http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne...-20160211-story.html

The Maryland Attorney General's Office is asking the state's highest court to take up competing appeals in the Freddie Gray case.

The agency, representing the Baltimore State's Attorney's Office, petitioned Tuesday for a writ of certiorari and expedited review regarding questions over whether Baltimore Police Officer William Porter can be compelled to testify against other officers while still facing his own charges.

Porter has sought to block his forced testimony in the trial of Officer Caesar Goodson and Sgt. Alicia White.

Meanwhile, prosecutors were denied in their attempt to compel Porter to testify against Officers Edward Nero and Garrett Miller, and Lt. Brian Rice, and are seeking the appellate court to overturn that decision.

The Attorney General's Office wrote that all five cases should be reviewed "because they provide an appropriate vehicle for this court to consider the application of [the state immunity statute] from all sides."

"The lower courts are in need of guidance regarding their proper role when faced with a prosecutor's request" under the immunity statute, they wrote.

The trials of Goodson and White were put on hold until Porter's issue was resolved in the Court of Special Appeals — arguments are scheduled for early March.

Judge Barry Williams denied prosecutors' request to call Porter as a witness at the trials of Nero, Miller and Rice, suggesting it was a stall tactic. Nero's trial is slated to begin Feb. 22.

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So far it looks like Judge Williams is still set to have Nero's trial on 22 Feb, without Porter's forced testimony.

But the prosecutors are going to the Appeals Court, and now the highest MD Court, to force Porter to testify in all trials.

This is purely my speculation: but I am wondering if the prosecutors are worried that w/o Porter, they might have a hard time providing evidence that Gray wasn't seat belted. (It is clear he wasn't, Porter testified to that). But maybe they don't have video or any other witnesses to actually say that. Just wondering.
 
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I suspect that the prosecutors realize they have a very poor case w/o Porter's testimony, and are trying every trick they know to boost their case. It does not matter to them what the rules are or what the laws are, they will do anything to try and salvage this case and Mosby's career.


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