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NASA’s Voyager 2 Probe Enters Interstellar Space

For the second time in history, a human-made object has reached the space between the stars. NASA’s Voyager 2 probe now has exited the heliosphere – the protective bubble of particles and magnetic fields created by the Sun.

Members of NASA’s Voyager team will discuss the findings at a news conference at 11 a.m. EST (8 a.m. PST) today at the meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) in Washington. The news conference will stream live on the agency’s website.

Comparing data from different instruments aboard the trailblazing spacecraft, mission scientists determined the probe crossed the outer edge of the heliosphere on Nov. 5. This boundary, called the heliopause, is where the tenuous, hot solar wind meets the cold, dense interstellar medium. Its twin, Voyager 1, crossed this boundary in 2012, but Voyager 2 carries a working instrument that will provide first-of-its-kind observations of the nature of this gateway into interstellar space.

Voyager 2 now is slightly more than 11 billion miles (18 billion kilometers) from Earth. Mission operators still can communicate with Voyager 2 as it enters this new phase of its journey, but information – moving at the speed of light – takes about 16.5 hours to travel from the spacecraft to Earth. By comparison, light traveling from the Sun takes about eight minutes to reach Earth.

The most compelling evidence of Voyager 2’s exit from the heliosphere came from its onboard Plasma Science Experiment (PLS), an instrument that stopped working on Voyager 1 in 1980, long before that probe crossed the heliopause. Until recently, the space surrounding Voyager 2 was filled predominantly with plasma flowing out from our Sun. This outflow, called the solar wind, creates a bubble – the heliosphere – that envelopes the planets in our solar system. The PLS uses the electrical current of the plasma to detect the speed, density, temperature, pressure and flux of the solar wind. The PLS aboard Voyager 2 observed a steep decline in the speed of the solar wind particles on Nov. 5. Since that date, the plasma instrument has observed no solar wind flow in the environment around Voyager 2, which makes mission scientists confident the probe has left the heliosphere.

In addition to the plasma data, Voyager’s science team members have seen evidence from three other onboard instruments – the cosmic ray subsystem, the low energy charged particle instrument and the magnetometer – that is consistent with the conclusion that Voyager 2 has crossed the heliopause. Voyager’s team members are eager to continue to study the data from these other onboard instruments to get a clearer picture of the environment through which Voyager 2 is traveling.

“There is still a lot to learn about the region of interstellar space immediately beyond the heliopause,” said Ed Stone, Voyager project scientist based at Caltech in Pasadena, California.

Together, the two Voyagers provide a detailed glimpse of how our heliosphere interacts with the constant interstellar wind flowing from beyond. Their observations complement data from NASA’s Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX), a mission that is remotely sensing that boundary. NASA also is preparing an additional mission – the upcoming Interstellar Mapping and Acceleration Probe (IMAP), due to launch in 2024 – to capitalize on the Voyagers’ observations.

“Voyager has a very special place for us in our heliophysics fleet,” said Nicola Fox, director of the Heliophysics Division at NASA Headquarters. “Our studies start at the Sun and extend out to everything the solar wind touches. To have the Voyagers sending back information about the edge of the Sun’s influence gives us an unprecedented glimpse of truly uncharted territory.”

While the probes have left the heliosphere, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 have not yet left the solar system, and won’t be leaving anytime soon. The boundary of the solar system is considered to be beyond the outer edge of the Oort Cloud, a collection of small objects that are still under the influence of the Sun’s gravity. The width of the Oort Cloud is not known precisely, but it is estimated to begin at about 1,000 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun and to extend to about 100,000 AU. One AU is the distance from the Sun to Earth. It will take about 300 years for Voyager 2 to reach the inner edge of the Oort Cloud and possibly 30,000 years to fly beyond it.

The Voyager probes are powered using heat from the decay of radioactive material, contained in a device called a radioisotope thermal generator (RTG). The power output of the RTGs diminishes by about four watts per year, which means that various parts of the Voyagers, including the cameras on both spacecraft, have been turned off over time to manage power.

“I think we’re all happy and relieved that the Voyager probes have both operated long enough to make it past this milestone,” said Suzanne Dodd, Voyager project manager at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California. “This is what we've all been waiting for. Now we’re looking forward to what we’ll be able to learn from having both probes outside the heliopause.”

Voyager 2 launched in 1977, 16 days before Voyager 1, and both have traveled well beyond their original destinations. The spacecraft were built to last five years and conduct close-up studies of Jupiter and Saturn. However, as the mission continued, additional flybys of the two outermost giant planets, Uranus and Neptune, proved possible. As the spacecraft flew across the solar system, remote-control reprogramming was used to endow the Voyagers with greater capabilities than they possessed when they left Earth. Their two-planet mission became a four-planet mission. Their five-year lifespans have stretched to 41 years, making Voyager 2 NASA’s longest running mission.

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What if jellyfish that wash up on the beach are underwater alien probes but we simply do not understand the technology, so young boys just poke 'em with a stick and try to fling them on icky girls...




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"Vger is a child, i suggest you treat it as such"

"Vger needs the creator"

Carbon based units.

Still, all kidding aside this is remarkable.




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Amazing- but before anyone gets the idea it has left the solar system, reconsider. The heliopause is @100 AU from the sun. Voyager 2 has passed beyond and entered into interstellar space. The Oort Cloud, which contains vast numbers of icy bodies, begins at @1000 AU... or ten times the distance Voyager2 has presently traveled. It is theorized to extend to 100,000 AU, or 100 times further yet.

So to put it in distances that are easier to grasp, say the distance V2 has traveled is 1 mile. To get to the beginning of Oort Cloud will have to travel 10 more miles. To cross the expanse of the Oort Cloud and pass through the outer shell of the solar system, 1,000 miles will have to be crossed.

We’ve gone 1/1000 of the distance needed to break totally free from the solar system. Mind boggling.

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"Vger is a child, i suggest you treat it as such"

"Vger needs the creator"

Carbon based units.

Still, all kidding aside this is remarkable.




 
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The computer that powers each Voyager has just under 70k of RAM, and its "hard drive" is an 8-Track tape setup, and your smartphone is ~7,000 times more powerful, and a slow dial up connection from ages ago transmits data at a rate ~100x faster than Voyager can.

Its transmitter is a whopping 22.4w and by the time the signal reaches us on Earth it's a faint 0.1 billion-billionth of a watt, and it takes NASA's largest 70ft antenna to even hear it, and we expect to lose contact with both of them around 2036.

Both of the Voyagers are traveling at approximately 35,000mph, and at that speed it will take ~40,000yrs to get roughly half way to our nearest neighboring star - Proxima Centauri (which is ~4.25 Light Years away, or ~25 Trillion Miles from Earth).
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I can't throw my smartphone that fast or that far, so there's that...




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Space is big.

I recall reading somewhere that it would take a spacecraft traveling at the same speed as V2 nearly 750,000,000 years to reach our next nearest galaxy. At light speed, only about 25,000 years.



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^ it's about 25,000 light years to the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, which has been considered our nearest neighboring galaxy since 2003 or so (says a link I saw earlier).

And each Light Year is equal to ~5.8 Trillion Miles, so Canis Major is around 150,000-Trillion Miles from the Milky Way.

At Voyager's current speed of ~35,000mph, that would take about 20,000yrs/light-year, so, what... 25,000lightyears x 20,000yrs, or 500,000,000yrs, if I've not made a mistake.

So... 500 Million years, traveling at 35,000mph, just to reach the nearest Galaxy. At an average of ~25yrs per human generation, that's 20 Million generations of humans.

Humanity itself is "only" 1,000-10,000 generations old, as of now.
 
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Just exactly how fast is a warp anyway?
 
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Just exactly how fast is a warp anyway?


Warp Factor 1 = c, or 1x the speed of light.
Warp Factor 2 = 10 x c
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Warp Factor 10 = infinite speed



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Just exactly how fast is a warp anyway?


Warp Factor 1 = c, or 1x the speed of light.
Warp Factor 2 = 10 x c
...
Warp Factor 10 = infinite speed


And then there's Ludicrous Speed.
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I can't throw my smartphone that fast or that far, so there's that...


That's is why we need an fling an iPhone strapped to an Ion Engine towards Alpha Centauri and post it's findings here.




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Just exactly how fast is a warp anyway?


Warp Factor 1 = c, or 1x the speed of light.
Warp Factor 2 = 10 x c
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Warp Factor 10 = infinite speed


And then there's Ludicrous Speed.

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The computer that powers each Voyager has just under 70k of RAM, and its "hard drive" is an 8-Track tape setup, and your smartphone is ~7,000 times more powerful, and a slow dial up connection from ages ago transmits data at a rate ~100x faster than Voyager can.

Its transmitter is a whopping 22.4w and by the time the signal reaches us on Earth it's a faint 0.1 billion-billionth of a watt, and it takes NASA's largest 70ft antenna to even hear it, and we expect to lose contact with both of them around 2036.

Both of the Voyagers are traveling at approximately 35,000mph, and at that speed it will take ~40,000yrs to get roughly half way to our nearest neighboring star - Proxima Centauri (which is ~4.25 Light Years away, or ~25 Trillion Miles from Earth).


Fascinating isn't it??





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I'm not convinced it was a good idea to send alien species unsolicited nudes images of humans, a mixed dance tape, and directions to Bendale's home planet.


I wouldn't worry about someone bumping into two tiny little space probes in the vastness of space and finding us. For almost the last 100 years, we've been sending radio waves in all directions at the speed of light. They know we're here.

They good news is we'll be long gone by the time they get here.

This website gives a timer for how long each probe has been going and how far they are away from both the Earth and Sun: JPL Voyagers' Mission Status website . At times, the distance from Earth counts backwards as we revolve around the Sun.
 
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I'm not convinced it was a good idea to send alien species unsolicited nudes images of humans, a mixed dance tape, and directions to Bendale's home planet.


I wouldn't worry about someone bumping into two tiny little space probes in the vastness of space and finding us. For almost the last 100 years, we've been sending radio waves in all directions at the speed of light. They know we're here.

They good news is we'll be long gone by the time they get here.


We’ve been transmitting pitifully weak signals into the void, and not once have we received anything but the background noise of star activity. The odds are that any intelligent species that has evolved beyond where we are technologically would have transmitted something for us to detect (if were even capable of recognizing what we’re detecting). As of yet, we have not been able to hear, decipher, or filter out anything.

The implies that, and reminds us that space is truly more vast than the average person can comprehend. The fact that we have received nothing in the form of intelligible signals from a species smart enough to decide to stop broadcasting their whereabouts, even if they were doing so inadvertently up to a point means they are at minimum a LONG way away from us.

At this point, our earliest radio signals have made it about 110 spherical light years from earth. Signals traveling for 110 years at the speed of light. Unless a species started off cloaking radio transmissions, theoretically they are at minimum that distance away from us, and growing (also at light speed). Our signals have traveled the equivalent of @1/10th the way across our own galaxy. If other advanced life doesn’t live in the Milky Way, it will be a ridiculously long time before we are detected at all.




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Our signals have traveled the equivalent of @1/10th the way across our own galaxy.


Isn't our galaxy 100,000 light years wide? How can our signals have covered 1/10th of our galaxy? Wouldn't it be more like 11/5,000?
 
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The amazing thing is that that 8-track tape still works.
 
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Our signals have traveled the equivalent of @1/10th the way across our own galaxy.


Isn't our galaxy 100,000 light years wide? How can our signals have covered 1/10th of our galaxy? Wouldn't it be more like 11/5,000?

Good catch- I didn’t notice I had left zeros off...it was early and the coffee hadn’t kicked in Big Grin

I meant the equivalent of 1/1000 of the way across, compared to the actual size of 100,000 light years across, not our location within it.




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