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Originally posted by selogic:
Too much money involved . Won't happen . And if it did , they would find some Federal Judge to overturn it ..

Where's your white flag?

Seems like I've asked you this more than once.

If you want to surrender before battles are fought, write it in your diary, but keep it off the pages of this forum.

There are many things happening these days, that some people said would never happen. Keep that in mind.

I seem to recall a commercial back in the 1960s that had two male goats butting heads a lot for an Excedrin.

The drug commercials lack creativity as well.The new Weathertech commericial is quite funny:

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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:
Not to mention "If you're taking medication A and you have these side effects, you need medication B and C to combat the effects of A."

What I refer to as the "pharmaceuticals domino effect."

My mother did that. Every time a doc has tried to prescribe me something I've told them "Thanks, but no thanks. My mother ended-up with a small pharmacy in her medicine cabinet. I'm not going there."

My wife has a friend who started out with minor (?) depression following the death of her husband. Doc put her on some-or-another anti-depressant . She's now on a half-dozen or more drugs and has palsy so bad she can barely hang onto things.

My wife's tried to tell her. Response: "But my doctor says..."

People don't understand, and I suspect doctors rarely (never?) tell them: The vast majority of pharmaceuticals don't cure illness or disease, but merely mask or mitigate the effects, and, often-as-not, create new problems.

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Originally posted by 229DAK:

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Oh. My. Lord. I'm thinking "Why in God's name would you risk all that when you can achieve the same, and more, with a keto diet and a bit of self-control?"

Because many, many people these days are stupid, lazy idiots and simply want a pill (or two) to solve all their problems for them.

Yeah, I know. The question was kind of rhetorical.

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Originally posted by 229DAK:

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Oh. My. Lord. I'm thinking "Why in God's name would you risk all that when you can achieve the same, and more, with a keto diet and a bit of self-control?"

Because many, many people these days are stupid, lazy idiots and simply want a pill (or two) to solve all their problems for them.

Not to mention if children were actually educated, it was either go 100% or use the Food Pyramid that is very carb heavy. Supposedly, RFK Jr is going to blow up the food pyramid for one that's higher in protein that keeps you fuller for longer.

Thanks to YouTube and mild medication, my A1C was down to 6.2 while half assing a meal plan. To use a cliche, if I knew what I know now, I could have easily kept my blood sugar under better control along with my weight, and Public School could have easily taught me this but couldn't bother.

If they do away with ads, some people are going to have trouble naming their children.

"Dupixent, go get Fasenra and Wegovy out of bed! It's time for school! Opzelura, go start the car!"

The advertising in media has (IMHO) little or nothing to do with getting patient consumers onboard with the latest/greatest drugs from Big Pharma. The actual intended "consumer" is the media getting big $$$$$$$ for airing all those advertisements. Do you think for one moment that ABC, NBC, CBS, etc..., would report negative news about hidden side effects or lack of efficacy on their news if that meant these same companies' advertisers would pull airtime? It's a matter of buying influence among these media outlets and keeping the sources "on point."

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Originally posted by a1abdj:
They aren't buying advertising. They're buying control over the broadcaster.

That right there is why there is no widespread honest reporting of prescription medications.

Well, I for one hope that Mr. Kennedy is successful!!

Hey, Doc. I saw this pill on the teevee...

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Originally posted by gjgalligan:
If you ban all the drug ads then the time will be filled in with more extended warranties, car & home, lawyers, medicare supplemental insurance, life insurance, bla, bla, bla....

Just more demons to annoy us.

Maybe so, but the worst of those are far less obnoxious than drug ads. Take the win.

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Originally posted by gjgalligan:
If you ban all the drug ads then the time will be filled in with more extended warranties, car & home, lawyers, medicare supplemental insurance, life insurance, bla, bla, bla....

Just more demons to annoy us.

What would satisfy you? Anything? Tell us.

How many times have I said I don't want to see defeatism in this forum? You're just looking for things to be miserable about.

Furthermore, you have missed the point entirely. Direct marketing of pharmaceuticals to consumers is unethical.

There are still going to be Pharma reps,conferences and journals.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
There are still going to be Pharma reps,conferences and journals.

Like gigalligan: Missing the point.

The problem with Big Pharma advertising on TV and in other media meant for non-medical public consumption is more the effect their advertising revenue has on that media than the annoyance of the adverts, per se.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
There are still going to be HOT Pharma reps,conferences and journals.

FIFY

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry I left out jocks with super bowl rings who will let you beat them in tennis.

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Originally posted by tleddy:

I have spent 55 years in clinical laboratory medicine and have been appalled at advertising for prescription drugs! People asking for drugs drive physicians crazy!

It's a double edge sword. I spent over 20 years in pharmaceutical companies in supply and demand planning roles. Part of that demand planning was snooping around forums of pharmaceutical sales insiders and patient forum groups. I was surprised that patients or families of patients of a disease would be more up to date on clinical trials happening around the world than their specialist doctors.

Think about it. These doctors spend their whole day dealing with patients. Their continuing education requirements are maybe a week that they spend in a conference that they use as a tax deductible vacation? So these forums offer patients more information about the latest updates than their doctors.

I can see the pharmaceutical companies' ploy to drum up business via the patient but the doctors are also exposed to regular visits from pharmaceutical reps.

And, yes, my eyes go bug-eyed when I hear side effects as depression, suicidal thoughts, heart failure for a new drug just to treat something innocuous like jock itch.

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Originally posted by Hamden106:
I took FUKITOL, and I feel totally relieved of stress

I hope it gets the ok, at least one in every commercial break.