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The Unmanned Writer |
All, I have a better safe (1,200 degrees @ 90 minutes?) However some who goes by H.G. Wells once told me paper burns at 451 Fahrenheit which means paper (like cash) could become useless after a fire. Are there options or solutions for an insulated document box for use inside a safe? Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | ||
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Those sentry fire safes would give you an added level of protection and insulation. They suck as a safe, but are pretty decent in their fire protection properties. | |||
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Pretty sure that it was Ray Bradbury who wrote fahrenheit 451. I'm no expert on safes but if your safe can withstand exposure to 1200 degrees for 90 minutes without any heat damage to your guns your paper money and documents should be good for that too. For more protection you might try one of those insulated lock boxes stored inside your gun safe. I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one. | |||
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This is what I did. I hope I never have to find out well it works. But I feel better with the added protection. | |||
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I put cash, passports, etc in ziplock bags inside a sentry safe, in the bottom of my gunsafe. I figured I'd have extra fire protection along with protection from water damage. | |||
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legendary_lawman |
I use a Liberty Cool Pocket for my documents which is at the bottom of the safe, attached to the door. http://www.libertysafe.com/acc...ket-ps-15-pg-62.html "In God We Trust" | |||
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| Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
Stuck in the middle of a thick book. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Alienator |
I have a fireproof/water proof safe inside my safe. https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...ilpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE P322 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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safe & sound |
The biggest problem with the majority of gun safes is that they will not perform as advertised. Do not believe that the "rating" the manufacturer has printed on a sticker is anywhere close to reality. There are exceptions, but the vast majority of gun safes are insulated with gypsum board and have no interior support. That gypsum board is full of seams and gaps. Once exposed to heat it will bake out, crumble, and fall within the safe. The door frames are not designed to prevent heat from traveling into the safe. The thin construction will not hold up well as the safe begins to deform. If you're going to use an insert inside of a gun safe (which is a great idea by the way), make sure it is one that is designed and properly rated as a free standing unit. Any time you see photos of gun safes that "survived" a fire, there is usually more to the story than the safe being a great fire safe. | |||
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I have a Sentry fire box inside my gun "safe". I adjust large insurance claims for a living. If the room your gun safe is in, is a total burn, everything inside is going to be a gonner. Saw this 2 weeks ago including a $5500 Christiansen Arms custom rifle w/ carbon fiber barrel. I don't know if docs inside a firebox inside would have made it...but this particular fire was way hotter than normal, this whole room was wood (floor, wall paneling, ceiling). Good news is that homes rarely burn to the ground like that, I only see a couple of those per year. Most often the interior gets pretty hot then put out. In these cases, the gun safe is intact, but all the guns inside are smoked so it is a question of detailed disassembly, cleaning and inspection. In the vast majority of fires, docs inside another fire box would be just fine. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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| The Unmanned Writer |
Well i was having a beer with Mr Wells tomorrow night and he told me otherwise.  Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| The Unmanned Writer |
Thanks. Originally the safe was backed up to an exterior wall (master bedroom) and i figured it was GTG then i remarried and the safe was moved to the house's centerline and nearer to the middle. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| Unapologetic Old School Curmudgeon  |
Thats pretty cool, (pun not really intended but why not) thanks for the link. Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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Truth Seeker |
I did this as well. All important documents are inside a sentry fire chest inside of my gun safe. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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| The Unmanned Writer |
That is near exact what I saw in my head when asking the question. Thank you!! Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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Sentry Safe inside Gun Safe. Don't be the guy to find out by experience that your money is burned up and there's not much that can be done about it. <--- talked to such a guy. | |||
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