He is not a "professor" he is a "lecturer" with a MA in philosophy. No tenure. At Diablo Valley College.

Where folks from my high school that didn't make it into Chico State went... (not that there is anything wrong with state schools, at least there wasn't 30-40 years ago. No opinion now)

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Originally posted by spunk639:
The criminal charges aside, how the hell is somebody a professor at 28, I'm betting he's not a prodigy. Let's do the math graduate high school at 18, college at 21 or 22 post graduate work until 24 or 25 three years outside of school and you have to enough to be a professor? Guess I'm slow but 28 really......

He ain't professor, I can almost guarantee you that. It's just media fuck up, elevating his status. More likely instructor, and at most, assistant professor.

All you need to become a professor is to have a masters which he does have. All it means is you teach at a college or university. It doesn't mean you are permanent though, simply a college teacher. For universities, they tend to like PhDs to become permanent.

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by spunk639:
The criminal charges aside, how the hell is somebody a professor at 28, I'm betting he's not a prodigy. Let's do the math graduate high school at 18, college at 21 or 22 post graduate work until 24 or 25 three years outside of school and you have to enough to be a professor? Guess I'm slow but 28 really......

He ain't professor, I can almost guarantee you that. It's just media fuck up, elevating his status. More likely instructor, and at most, assistant professor.

All you need to become a professor is to have a masters which he does have. All it means is you teach at a college or university. It doesn't mean you are permanent though, simply a college teacher. For universities, they tend to like PhDs to become permanent.

Assistant professor -> Associate professor -> Professor. He ain't professor. Plenty of folks going around calling themselves "professors", when they really are not. This maggot is one of them.

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“This is a political attack on an individual who has a clean record in this community,” Siegel said.

Siegel is actually portraying his client as the victim. Incredible.

He looks like the Anonymous Caricature...
Hit him with the Hein!

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He retained attorney Siegel prior to his arrest and designated Siegel as his representative, police wrote.

Wonder who's footing that bill for him? Hmmmm....

More importantly for the legal professionals here. How do you get a conviction on this guy? His face was covered in the video and the Berkley cops didn't arrest him at the scene of the crime, so how does the prosecution prove it was him if he testifies it wasn't? All the other evidence the police have is circumstantial, which someone like Siegel can probably worm his way out of. I want to see this guy go down for a long time, I just don't know how they get that conviction.

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He retained attorney Siegel prior to his arrest and designated Siegel as his representative, police wrote.

Wonder who's footing that bill for him? Hmmmm....

More importantly for the legal professionals here. How do you get a conviction on this guy? His face was covered in the video and the Berkley cops didn't arrest him at the scene of the crime, so how does the prosecution prove it was him if he testifies it wasn't? All the other evidence the police have is circumstantial, which someone like Siegel can probably worm his way out of. I want to see this guy go down for a long time, I just don't know how they get that conviction.

Police say they recovered a bike lock like the one in the video. It likely has blood and hair traces on it. A good likelihood on the clothing too. Seems pretty solid from the evidence posted here and on 4Chan

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Police say they recovered a bike lock like the one in the video. It likely has blood and hair traces on it. A good likelihood on the clothing too. Seems pretty solid from the evidence posted here and on 4Chan

Again, that's just circumstantial evidence. How does the prosecution prove to a jury beyond any doubt this nitwit was there swinging that bike lock at people? Even his fingerprints on the lock wouldn't be conclusive given it is his lock.

Again, I want to see this loser go down, I'm just curious as to how the prosecution gets there. And the Berkely cops not doing their job and arresting this guy at the scene really made the prosecutors job harder.

If I show you a video of a guy doing the beating that fits his description, and show you a bike lock and clothing belonging to him that has the victim's dna on it, are you saying that you wouldn't convict him?

DNA is circumstantial evidence. It is just as good as direct evidence of what a witness saw.

(Mind you, I don't know if they have all of that but I'm suggesting that there are plenty of ways to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt).

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Originally posted by TSE:
Police say they recovered a bike lock like the one in the video. It likely has blood and hair traces on it. A good likelihood on the clothing too. Seems pretty solid from the evidence posted here and on 4Chan

Again, that's just circumstantial evidence. How does the prosecution prove to a jury beyond any doubt this nitwit was there swinging that bike lock at people? Even his fingerprints on the lock wouldn't be conclusive given it is his lock.

Again, I want to see this loser go down, I'm just curious as to how the prosecution gets there. And the Berkely cops not doing their job and arresting this guy at the scene really made the prosecutors job harder.

I would expect that more than 90% of criminal cases have less evidence. It isn't that often that a criminal is stopped immediately after committing a crime. Generally a case needs to be made that the person was present, had means and opportunity.
To date the press has shown that the police have tracked his phone to the area at the time. Pictures of a person that bears a striking resemblance to him (even if partially masked) from the event. Clothing and a possible weapon were found in his possession. And he effectively bragged about it on the internet. There is almost for sure more evidence too as the press are not privy to everything. It looks like a pretty solid case from here.

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If I show you a video of a guy doing the beating that fits his description, and show you a bike lock and clothing belonging to him that has the victim's dna on it, are you saying that you wouldn't convict him?

DNA is circumstantial evidence. It is just as good as direct evidence of what a witness saw.

(Mind you, I don't know if they have all of that but I'm suggesting that there are plenty of ways to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt).

Look, let's not make this personal as neither of us will be on that jury. And you should know by now how flaky juries can be.

As to your comment about a 'description', how many people who live in California currently could fit that description? Since his face was covered in the video, the video is only so helpful. And DNA on the bike lock would also be helpful, but not conclusive evidence this clown was swinging it that day.

My whole point here is that since the Berkely cops didn't arrest and ID him at the scene (i.e. their job), the prosecutor's office is going to have to find a way to conclusively place him at the scene with that bike lock in hand, beating other people with it. I'd just like to know from the attorneys here on the board how the prosecution will go about doing just that.

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Look, let's not make this personal as neither of us will be on that jury.

I wasn't intending to, sorry if it came off that way. Can I assume that if you were presented with the evidence that I laid out your verdict would be not guilty?

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Look, let's not make this personal as neither of us will be on that jury.

I wasn't intending to, sorry if it came off that way. Can I assume that if you were presented with the evidence that I laid out your verdict would be not guilty?

Nope, you'd be best not to assume anything. As mentioned by another poster here, the police likely have additional evidence we haven't seen or heard yet. Until everything is presented and discussed, I wouldn't vote guilty or not guilty. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more in the coming days., but as I noted, I'm very interested to see how the prosecution approaches this case because I don't want this clown to wiggle out of this somehow.

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Nope, you'd be best not to assume anything.

Fair enough, and I can't argue with you. What I would suggest, though, is that you will never know the full evidence or the prosecution's complete strategy until the trial, and even then only if you watch it in its entirety. You just won't get that much detail from the media.

The only point I was trying to make with my first post was to present a scenario that I personally believe would prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in my mind. I too have no idea what the complete package of evidence is.

The full 5 minute Trolling of perps Lawyer.

Palm and bigdeal, take it to email.

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Palm and bigdeal, take it to email.

Understood.

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Ok, if this is the attorney representing the 'Prof', then I'm no longer concerned about his conviction on 'all' counts.

Wasn't it interesting that he wouldn't offer up who's paying his tab when asked.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Look, let's not make this personal as neither of us will be on that jury.

I think I'm about due to be called for Jury Duty again. I can wish can't I ?

Tucker Carlson is about to interview this guy's lawyer..............