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 The state of California would lose four seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, and therefore four votes in the electoral college, if only citizens were counted in the decennial national census. The report comes days after a lawsuit that argues against including a citizenship question in the national census received the green light to go to trial Thursday, according to The New York Times’ blog The Upshot. Proponents of distinguishing between citizens and noncitizens when apportioning representation would increase the power of states like Louisiana and Montana at the expense of states like California and New York, according to The Upshot. If noncitizens were cut from state population totals and Congress was reapportioned via a constitutional amendment, 11 states would find themselves with a new number of U.S. representatives. California would lose four, and Texas, New York and Florida would each lose one. Montana, Missouri, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Louisiana and Colorado would each gain one, according to The Upshot. Counting only citizens would also bring about changes at the local level. For example, 29 percent of Florida’s population resides in the Miami metropolitan region. But if only the region’s voting-age citizens were counted, the Miami region would only account for 26 percent of the state’s population, according to The Upshot. That would give more power to rural parts of the state. Alabama filed suit in federal court against the Commerce Department, “challenging the [Census] Bureau’s policy of including all U.S. residents in the Census count used for apportionment,” according to the Brennan Center for Justice. Alabama argues that it has been deprived of its proper amount of representation. http://dailycaller.com/2018/08...p-census-california/ | ||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
I believe that only citizens should be used for Apportionment. The total number of residents might be useful for other purposes, but only citizens should count when legislators are allocated. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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It is important to get the citizenship question on the census. Then only apportion House members based on actual U.S. citizens. | |||
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hell I'd give up one in FL if CA has to remove 4 communists! We have a few to choose from! Debbie Wasshername Shlitz Frederica Wilson Charlie Crist Val Demmings Alcee Hastings Ok we'll give up any one of these LOL | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
This is an outrage. If you give extra seats to Whackyland, they just waste them, as they obviously have. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Can you just imagine the level of political cannabalism that would occur in CA when the current reps get to fight over 4 less seats  | |||
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^^^^^ Need to buy tickets early to get the best seats.... flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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How would states gain representatives? "I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here." -- Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, Jan. 11, 1989 Si vis pacem para bellum There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Feeding Trolls Since 1995 | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I believe it can only be done after each census. The size of Congress is fixed, and the seats are allocated based on population, and the states gaining or losing draw new districts. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Does it really matter? "Are you a citizen?" How many do you think are going to say no? | |||
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Pretty simple. Have you registered for selective service? NO - OK - you don't get counted. | |||
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Heck, let's make the ultimate sacrifice and give them all up. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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