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...yeah. Here’s what WeWork is giving laid-off employees who aren’t named Adam Neumann
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Ok, that made me raise my eyebrows a bit. Wow. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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He was the founder, stock holder #1. Most of the "parachute" was his equity being cashed out. Saying he was the CEO is misleading at best, probably meant to cause the outrage that generates clicks..... ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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An investment in knowledge pays the best interest |
Correct. Not sure what the consulting fees are about, but half a billion was either a legit corporate loan or he'll forgo some debt to equity conversion that was in his contract... so not really $1.7 billion at all. If one is pissed reading the article, be pissed at the dumbass journalist and the horrible investors / underwriters backing this dogshit. | |||
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Do companies payout stock sales all in one lump sum this large...I would've expected this to be stretched out over several years. I guess they wanted him gone and done with. As an aside, Neumann's wife is cousin to Gweneth Paltrow and is a loon | |||
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This. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Capitalism sucks. Find me a better system.. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
This is the part I don't get right here. Why the non-compete? The Company is terminating their employment, then telling them they can't work anywhere else in their realm of experience for 12 months...in exchange for four months severance. What are they supposed to do for the next 8 months? I get making somebody sign a non-compete at the beginning of employment...but to do it as part of a layoff as a condition of severance, well beyond the duration of the severance package, seems like a dick move. | |||
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Softbank had to pay off Neumann's 500M loan he had against his stock, in addition to cashing out his 1B in equity. Softbank lost 5B on the bailout. This is the kind of crap you see near the end of a run, just like in 1999/2000 when all the junk internet stocks blew up. | |||
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Nosce te ipsum |
Nothing surprises me anymore. The 4 months pay for 6-12 months non-compete is extortion, though. The genius is actually finding clients who will pay for these "services". Maybe I can break into this market for imagined value ... Hey, I have a secret formula for dehydrated water ... | |||
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I Am The Walrus |
Same here regarding that no compete. Depending on the state, I believe it might not even be enforceable but it even being there is a dick move. But it's probably there because they have a lot of dirty shit they don't want to get out. Seems the shittiest companies use a no compete clause. _____________ | |||
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Don't Panic |
That company was set up and run for the private benefit of the founder. As one small example, the founder personally trademarked the company name and then selling the trademark to the company for $5.9M! That's the kind of stuff that should have sent knowledgeable private investors turning them down flat. They should have gone under long before they hit the wall with the pre-IPO public disclosures. | |||
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Non competes are generally narrowly tailored to be enforceable in the places where they are allowed. Without knowing the details of the non competes, you can't really make a judgement on whether it's a over reach. That said, non-competes are made to protect the company from you taking your skillset to a competitor. Just because you are laid off doesn't make you less of a threat, or make the competitors go away. | |||
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Absolutely!!! This scam with all of the self-dealing and insider real estate deals should have been very obvious to any knowledgeable investor.----- However, the enticement always is that you can ride the stock up and dump it before everyone else figures out that it is a scam. | |||
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Move Up or Move Over |
So it wasn't a golden parachute and they didn't lay 4000 people off yet. Anything else? | |||
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Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Such a "dick move" was pulled by IBM's board when John Akers was President and CEO. The company had lost money for the first time in generations, if ever. Akers "fudged" to books by pulling all R&D money out and listing it as income, A couple billion. Killed R&D, but inflated the "numbers" and the board gave him a 2.5 million "reward". Also the first time in history. The CEOs were all on salary, period. IBM had a division called Federal Systems Division (FSD). His next step in running the company into the sewer was to sell FSD to another company. Which basically ended IBM's business with the defense department. So, rewarding politically correct corporate officers is not new, only getting worse. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Even if his final compensation was more reasonable as in 'millions' instead of billion, it still wouldn't be in the neighborhood of 4 months pay. Having said that, 4 months pay IS very generous. WTF are people complaining about? When a company shut down, I think I got at most 2 weeks pay. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Now in Florida |
I have been involved in the financial markets and venture capital for a long time. It has been a long time since I have seen such an egregious case of hype. There is nothing magical or unique or innovative in WeWork's business. The are not much different than Regus and similar operators who lease space in buildings, divide it up and sublease it to businesses that need workspaces. The CEO, with his odd behaviour and self-dealing, should have set off giant flashing warning lights in any venture capital office he visited. The fact that it ever raised the billions that it did or even came close to an IPO is just insane. | |||
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Yeah, and benefits for three of those months as well. I thought that wasn't bad at all. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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186,000 miles per second. It's the law. |
Thats right. Better Softbank take the hit vs retail IPO bagholders. There was a lot of this type stuff going on in '99-00. Usually retail investors end up with the losses. It is good WeWork never made it to the IPO. | |||
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