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Carjacking suspect shot dead by man with concealed weapon in Wisconsin, police say

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February 27, 2018, 01:52 PM
JALLEN
Carjacking suspect shot dead by man with concealed weapon in Wisconsin, police say
A carjacking suspect was shot and killed by a man who had a concealed weapon on him in Milwaukee on Monday, officials said.

The Milwaukee Police Department said in a news release the 21-year-old suspect, identified as Carlos Martin, was shot after he attempted to carjack a 24-year-old man around 5:50 a.m. near the Milwaukee MachineTool Corporation.

"This is the worst thing that could possibly happen to someone," MPD Captain Andra Williams told FOX6.

He said the would-be carjacker was also armed, and that as carjacking and vehicle thefts continue to rise the incident should serve as a warning.

"This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the community that this is not a game. This is very serious," Williams told FOX6.


Police said the would-be victim had a concealed-carry permit, and was cooperating with the investigation.

Many who work in the area told FOX 6 that carjackers frequently target businesses looking for vehicles to steal, and many workers of businesses nearby are concealed-carry permit holders.

Alderman Cavalier Johnson, who represents the neighborhood on the city's northwest side, told FOX 6 the shooting was "completely preventable."

"That young man didn't have to die today. He didn't have to lose his life, but he made a bad decision and he did," he said.

Johnson said he wants parents to educate their children about the many dangers that come with crime.

"This isn't a game. This isn't live-action ‘Grand Theft Auto.’ You don't respawn after you're dead," he told FOX 6.

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When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
February 27, 2018, 02:06 PM
TXJIM
"Alderman Cavalier Johnson"...... city councilman Flip Wilson was unavailable for comment.


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February 27, 2018, 02:16 PM
arfmel
I used to have a cavalier johnson, back in college.
February 27, 2018, 02:16 PM
JALLEN
Such a death is easily preventable, merely by not messing with stuff that isn’t yours to mess with. Just that habit alone would eliminate an overwhelming majority of such premature deaths.

Not monkeying with another monkey’s monkey would eliminate most of the rest.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
February 27, 2018, 02:17 PM
12131
One less scum for society to deal with.


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February 27, 2018, 02:23 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Such a death is easily preventable, merely by not messing with stuff that isn’t yours to mess with. Just that habit alone would eliminate an overwhelming majority of such premature deaths.

Not monkeying with another monkey’s monkey would eliminate most of the rest.


Oh, sure. Blame the victim. Roll Eyes

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February 27, 2018, 02:48 PM
Fenris
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Such a death is easily preventable, merely by not messing with stuff that isn’t yours to mess with. Just that habit alone would eliminate an overwhelming majority of such premature deaths.

Not monkeying with another monkey’s monkey would eliminate most of the rest.

I think those were covered by Commandment 7 & 8 for those not paying attention in Sunday school. Hmmm... Rules to live by perhaps.




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February 27, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sportshooter
The way of the sinner is hard and can shorten your season I reckon.
February 27, 2018, 03:00 PM
egregore
quote:
"This should be a wake-up call to everyone in the community that this is not a game. This is very serious," Williams told FOX6.

Is that warning for the carjackers, or citizens/potential victims? Not sure.
February 27, 2018, 03:03 PM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Such a death is easily preventable, merely by not messing with stuff that isn’t yours to mess with. Just that habit alone would eliminate an overwhelming majority of such premature deaths.

Not monkeying with another monkey’s monkey would eliminate most of the rest.

I think those were covered by Commandment 7 & 8 for those not paying attention in Sunday school. Hmmm... Rules to live by perhaps.


There is a certain segment of the population that stops listening as soon as you mention religion, or anything inferring that, so it is sometimes useful to point out that there are some useful ideas which promote long good life whether the Big Guy in the Sky is really out there or not.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
February 27, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sig209
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
One less scum for society to deal with.


Yes sir.

Would love to see the prior offenses of the deceased.

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February 27, 2018, 03:09 PM
Fenris
Traditional values/rules often became traditional because they work.

That is not only true of religious ones. For example Weinstein would have done well to remember not to fish off the company pier.




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February 27, 2018, 03:12 PM
MG34_Dan
Let's all meet the new Milwaukee cadaver, Carlos Martin.




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February 27, 2018, 03:12 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by TXJIM:
"Alderman Cavalier Johnson"...... city councilman Flip Wilson was unavailable for comment.

Richard Fitzwell was indisposed at the time.
February 27, 2018, 03:13 PM
229DAK
quote:
You don't respawn after you're dead he told FOX 6.

He ain't gonna re-spawn or 'spawn' anything now.


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February 27, 2018, 03:18 PM
nhtagmember
this guy did the cops and the community a favor

they should make him Chief of Police



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February 27, 2018, 03:36 PM
JoseyWales2
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Alderman Cavalier Johnson, who represents the neighborhood on the city's northwest side, told FOX 6 the shooting was "completely preventable."

"That young man didn't have to die today. He didn't have to lose his life, but he made a bad decision and he did," he said.

Johnson said he wants parents to educate their children about the many dangers that come with crime.

"This isn't a game. This isn't live-action ‘Grand Theft Auto.’ You don't respawn after you're dead," he told FOX 6.


It sounds like Alderman Johnson is giving out some good advice, the question is will the appropriate people hear it. And unlike some local politicians, he doesn't seem to be trying to make a victim out of the perp, so at least I'll give him credit for that.


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February 27, 2018, 03:52 PM
Fenris
You would have to have big cojones to draw a gun from concealment if a carjacker already had a gun drawn on you.




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February 27, 2018, 03:57 PM
Lunasee
I grew up in that city. Now, you would not catch me there being unarmed. A true shithole now.
February 27, 2018, 04:01 PM
GWbiker
Well, I guess suspect didn't have money to buy a car.

Wonder if his family has enough money for his funeral.


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