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The Michelin Defender LTX M/S is the worst tire ever made as far as I'm concerned, so I've shied away from trying other tires in their LTX series. I like their motorcycle tires so I can't write them off completely but you will never see another set of Michelins on a truck owned by me without assurances of revolutionary improvements.

Ohh, do tell more about what garnered this opinion. I am the complete opposite I’d go to argue that the Defender LTX is the absolute best tire for trucks/SUVs that don’t leave pavement.
I have had nothing but excellent experiences with them.

Now the Premier LTX that is a whole other story.

Haha, I'm glad you're having good results from yours but I'm totally baffled whenever anyone says anything nice about them. I found that they had poor traction on dry pavement. Poor traction on wet pavement. Poor traction on snow. Poor traction on ice. Poor traction on wet or dry rock, poor traction in the mud. They are quiet and they last forever, but I'm convinced that's because they're made of some compound that doesn't wear because it's not actually rubber and it doesn't stick to anything. They should license it to Calphalon- pans made from that would be harder and more non stick than anything in existence today.

I wasn't suprised that they weren' good off road because they aren't really made for that. The lack of traction everywhere else suprised me though. They were scary. I've had good tires and I've had cheap Chinese tires, but that's the only time I've experienced tires so bad I wanted them to wear out so I could justify getting something else. As the miles piled up though, it became apparent that they were never going to wear out though and I went ahead and replaced them. I can only guess now, but I probably put 30k on them and they still looked almost new.

I did really like their motorcycle tires, and my car will probably get a set of pilot sports when I wear out the Nittos I've got on there now. The LTXs were just stunningly bad in every condition I ever ran across.

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A lot of my friends really like the Falken Wildpeak AT3W on their trucks/suvs. Good all terrain tire with a bit smoother ride on paved roads vs a KO2.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Perception:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Perception

The Michelin Defender LTX M/S is the worst tire ever made as far as I'm concerned, so I've shied away from trying other tires in their LTX series. I like their motorcycle tires so I can't write them off completely but you will never see another set of Michelins on a truck owned by me without assurances of revolutionary improvements.

Ohh, do tell more about what garnered this opinion. I am the complete opposite I’d go to argue that the Defender LTX is the absolute best tire for trucks/SUVs that don’t leave pavement.
I have had nothing but excellent experiences with them.

Now the Premier LTX that is a whole other story.

Haha, I'm glad you're having good results from yours but I'm totally baffled whenever anyone says anything nice about them. I found that they had poor traction on dry pavement. Poor traction on wet pavement. Poor traction on snow. Poor traction on ice. Poor traction on wet or dry rock, poor traction in the mud. They are quiet and they last forever, but I'm convinced that's because they're made of some compound that doesn't wear because it's not actually rubber and it doesn't stick to anything. They should license it to Calphalon- pans made from that would be harder and more non stick than anything in existence today.

I wasn't suprised that they weren' good off road because they aren't really made for that. The lack of traction everywhere else suprised me though. They were scary. I've had good tires and I've had cheap Chinese tires, but that's the only time I've experienced tires so bad I wanted them to wear out so I could justify getting something else. As the miles piled up though, it became apparent that they were never going to wear out though and I went ahead and replaced them. I can only guess now, but I probably put 30k on them and they still looked almost new.

I did really like their motorcycle tires, and my car will probably get a set of pilot sports when I wear out the Nittos I've got on there now. The LTXs were just stunningly bad in every condition I ever ran across.

It is wild how folks can have such different experiences with the same product. You are describing my experience with 2 sets of Bridgestone Duellers and a set of Michelin Premiers to a T!
The Defenders handle everything on pavement with great ease. I posted a picture of my Tundra on AT2s earlier in the thread. I drove my wife’s Suburban that same day on the Bridgetones with under 30k miles and thought I was going to die.
The following morning I had Defenders put on and they blazed on the road just like the AT2s sure footed as a mountain goat.
2 snow storms since and a bunch of rain have given no issues. I do not however expect them to perform off-road at all but I also did not buy them for that. Though the AT2s have performed great for mild/moderate off roading as the OP has suggested he did.

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A lot of my friends really like the Falken Wildpeak AT3W on their trucks/suvs. Good all terrain tire with a bit smoother ride on paved roads vs a KO2.

The Wildpeaks are a pretty good tire. I had them in 275/70/18 and laid $170 a tire.
Now they are closer to $300 part is due to all the nonsense going on in the world but they created quite a following Falken raised the price before all this supply chain stuff.
You may also get a set made in China. I spoke with customer service and they had to do it to keep up production. Also said if you get a Chinese set they would swap them out for a non Chinese set for you under their satisfaction guarantee.