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Wasn't this video a private citizen on DART, so in fact, it wasn't released by DART.... The better option would have been to move to another car, regardless if the 7 were wrong to be smoking anything at all. Not much different than the reaction at Chick-Fil-A, gang up, scream, act dangerous, reasonable folks will back up. They'll meet their Paul Kersey soon enough | |||
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Your assessment seems to be counting on the fact that all seven were wolves. All I saw was seven coyotes. Scroungers with confidence because they travel in packs. You dump the first one and the rest will scatter. They have been empowered for the last eight years that this type of behavior is acceptable. Not only acceptable, but encouraged as everybody owes them something. Encouraged because the criminal justice system fears them. Completely acceptable. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
You're probably right. But I wouldn't have wanted to confront them. As has been previously mentioned, I would have probably just moved to a different car rather than ask them to stop smoking weed. There was really nothing to be gained by it. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I would probably have gotten off at the next stop, reported them to the DART cops, and taken the next train. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Therein lies the problem. For far too long, decent people have been "moving to a different car". Some people are getting a little sick of this bullshit. I used to patrol the East Side of Chicago, South Shore neighborhood, South Chicago, Stony Island Park... The neighborhoods where my Mom and Dad were raised. The neighborhood where my Grandfather had a corner butcher shop. The neighborhood where, even being in the middle of a city, you could still keep your doors unlocked, and not worry. Now? A fucking war zone. I snow-plow in the winter, we have the account for the church where my Mother, Grandmother and Great Grandmother went. I don't go without a spare magazine. Why? Because people "moved to a different car". I can tell you about 30 neighborhoods & suburbs just like that. And that's just here, in Chicago. What about other Cities? How many more there? (normal)People are generally non-confrontational, and don't want a disturbance, an argument more or less a physical interaction with another human. So what's the best course of action? "Move to a different car". Until you have no where else to move to... Then there's this fight or flight thing. Hopefully one knows how to fight. The last dickhead we had in the Oval Office did nothing but foster this lawless attitude amongst the savages. More people need to start waking up and standing up to this bullshit! YES!!! By all means read and watch ANYTHING by Colin Flaherty. Start connecting the dots that the liberal media glosses over; ie. the same thing happens all over the country, and the news (for some odd reason) puts out a vague description of the offenders... but omits race. It's getting pretty bad when someone gets the shit beat out of them for asking a question as simple as "Can you act like a normal member of society?" in public, and no one does a damn thing but film it on a stupid cell phone. Again, more and more decent people need to start standing up to this savagery from a certain segment of society, and stop "moving to a different car". It does nothing but embolden them when you move. When it happens to be the next Bernie Geotz / Paul Kersey, so be it... I'm in for $50 for his on-line fund. If it happens here, and I ever cross paths with him, I swear that he was the FASTEST SOB I ever had to chase! Quick hands too! He took all my ammo from me before he got away.  ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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^^^CPD, you and I really need to get together and break bread.......... | |||
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I don't agree. I've seen a mob (blacks) run away when a shot gun was fired over their heads. Not even savage animals want to get shot. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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You're confusing the issue / situation and what I said. The video shows what happens when you don't know the answer or you won't like what the answer will be. He got beat up. Is getting beat up the answer? I really don't think that's what you're saying right? Let's talk real practical terms here. If you can come out relatively victorious without killing anyone or being killed yourself, then by all means, stand your ground. If you have the means to kill one or two of the opposing parties and have the time and resources to tie yourself up in the judicial system, then by all means, stand your ground. Don't you believe in the adage of picking your battles or are you just venting your frustration? Faced with a high probability of an unpleasant situation for myself, you bet I'm going to move to another car if I can. I don't wear a cape with an S on my chest. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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I grew up in South Chicago in the 70's and then the East Side during my late teen's. My parents still live there and the ol' man works for the city and nearing retirement. Yes, my old town is a war zone. | |||
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I see a Death Wish reboot in The Lair: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/5100082824 Hopefully Life will immitate Art and people will be inspired to take care of the problem. "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
I do not condone what was done, at all, but what did they think would happen...? And I must disagree, what this society needs more of is Minding Your Own Business, and Shutting The Fuck Up. Dude should have kept his trap shut. Policing such things isn't his job, role, or otherwise. What they did is still wrong, of course, but he brought it on himself to an equal degree. | |||
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Rebuttal: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke" "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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At some point someone has to call "bullshit". It ain't gonna' be easy and it may be painful. However, unless someone has the balls to call bad people out, we are fucked as a society, and the thugs win. Yeah, I know discretion is the better part of valor, but damn it sometimes you just have to say WTF? Niech Zyje P-220 Steve | |||
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A large GROUP of nondescript vigilantes need to bait some of these animals and smoke their asses then just leave the scene before any authorities arrive. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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Where at? My Dad was at 82nd & Anthony. Mom was 82nd & Colfax, Grandfathers store was on the corner of 83rd & Saganaw. He closed the store about '75-'76 ish. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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We lived off 79th & Greenwood, Grand Crossing Park. Used to walk to the Avalon Theater off Stony.I think the el Rukins took it over in the 70's. | |||
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You probably don't even have to worry about that quote, as it was said by a character in a Shakespeare play who was a coward. | |||
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| Finding the sweet spot |
When I was a kid in my little town of 80,000, I had a retired Marine Gunnery Sergeant on my paper route. He was a really awesome guy, I loved talking to him. One day He started talking about mobs and riots. He took a long drag on his cigarette, looked me in the eyes and said, "Son, if you ever have to fight a mob, kill the first two who cross you. When they realize you'll fight back, and kill to protect yourself, the rest will lose interest and scatter like roaches." I always hear those words when I see an unruly crowd. Sean ------------------------------------------ Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. | |||
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Im sick of having to move to the next car. I have a job (a few, actually), pay taxes, responsible, feed my family, try to teach my kids the right thing, and have them grow to be productive members of society. So are about 90% of the people out there. Yet, WE are the ones that should move to the next car? Because a bunch of fucking savages refuse to act like normal human beings? I completely understand what you're saying about pick & choose our battles. I've been in a few less than desirable situations, and had my ass beat more than a few times. Is it really worth getting into a fight with 2, 3, 4, + savages? Who knows what they have? A sock with a lock in in, a bottle, mace/pepper spray, a knife, a gun, a few knives, a few guns... again, BT/DT. Unless you're a real BAD MOFO, 1 on 2, 3, 4... you're on the loosing end of a serious beat down. I'm a cop in downtown Chicago now. I, after 17 or so years decided to leave the ghetto, seems like the ghetto found me. On a constant basis there are little mobs of savages acting like savages downtown. 3, 4, 5, 6 + little fucks doing this exact same shit that these assholes do. A mob of them run into a store like a swarm of locusts and steal armloads of stuff, then run off. A few years ago, we caught a bunch of them after they beat a 50ish Mother and her 23ish daughter on the train with socks with a padlock in them. Why? Because the daughter asked them to stop smoking weed on the train because she had asthma. Swarm 1 or 2 people and beat them as they rob them. Last summer, the savages chased a woman into Lake Shore Drive where she was hit and killed. Is getting your ass beat the answer? Im going with no. But damn... Got to stand up sometime. Once isn't going to do it. Until decent people start standing up and DOING SOMETHING, it's going to continue. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Just a few questions: When? Where? Beer, Bourbon or both? ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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