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| No double standards |
Seems that Elon Musk says we have to inhabit Mars because humans will overpopulate and ruin Earth. And Stephen Hawking says Trump's snub of the Paris climate agreement will turn the Earth into Venus. Seems Musk and Hawking well fit the description of conceited and stupid. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Earth heats up then cools down. Just how it works. Been doing since the beginning. It is ridiculous to think that we can influence it in any way. For ME: DA/SA=Sig 9mm or HK P30 LEM 9 Striker fired= Glock 9mm If it's a .45= 1911 Suppressed= HK in .45 I like anything in 10mm | |||
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What does he have against Mars? | |||
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I'm far more worried about rising debt levels than rising oceans or rising temperatures.... even on a day when it's 100* out!  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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You make a very good point. Add to that formal debt graph the unfunded liabilities, promises made to pay out in the future amounts that exceed the money that will be available to make such payments, such as much of social security and public employee pensions. Reportedly John Adams commented something like "there are two ways to conquer a nation, the first is by the sword, the second is by debt". Debt will likely ruin America before the climate does. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Not to mention that debt levels are something that humans actually can have control over...  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I have been a broken record on this, you can believe or disbelieve "Global Warming" but here are the facts, we are currently in a Interglacial period that started 15,000 years ago and still has a bit of time to go if it is consistent with the last 2 interglacial periods. Second, and IMO, more pressing, whether we can stop the warming or not, we are poisoning our planet and especially our water. Florida is a perfect example. Up in north Florida where we can actually dive in the aquifer and observe the effects we have had on it, the results are not pleasant. 50 years ago the springs were pumping out millions of gallons of potable water, now, most of it is contaminated or tannic stained. One of the largest springs in Florida, Wakulla, 40 years ago was crystal clear, now, it is so tannic that for most of the year it is un-diveable for exploration. 5 miles back in the cave at over 300' deep and it is pulling tannic water into the cave. The lower flow systems are full of sewage that is being dumped on top of them. We are pulling out so much water that the tannic water is pushing in, and we are dumping sewage on top. In the Alachua area it is sand/rock/aquifer so the cattle/agriculture farms, the cow shit and fertilizer goes right into the aquifer every time it rains. Not to mention, closer to the coast, salt water is replacing fresh water in all of the wells. Who cares how hot it gets, at the rate we are going, we wont have any water to drink anyway. | |||
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None of this will matter when the next 'Bola outbreak kills us all 37 more times. | |||
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Donald Trump took the heat, but the rest of the G20’s posturing won’t hide their rising emissions JULY 16, 2017 Golly, what excitement there was over President Trump’s refusal to sign the G20 communiqué backing the “Paris Accord” on climate change. Trump was in a minority of one against all the other 19 governments (plus the EU) which supported an agreement that the world must phase out fossil fuels. We were even told that the US now stood alone against all the other 195 countries that signed up to that non-binding Accord. But, just as happened at the time of Paris itself, everyone completely missed the real story. Before Paris, each of the 196 participating countries, as I reported at the time (thanks to that expert analyst Paul Homewood on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog), was asked to submit an Intended Nationally Determined Contribution (INDC), setting out its energy plans for the years up to 2030. China, the world’s largest CO2 emitter, is planning to double its yearly emissions All the major “developing” nations, led by China and India, paid lip service to the conference’s intentions, showing how they would be investing in “renewables” such as wind and solar, so long as they were generously subsidised to do so by the “developed” nations out of a Green Climate Fund worth $100 billion a year. But they then explained how, to keep their economies growing, they planned to build huge numbers of new fossil fuel power stations, which would lead to a massive increase in their CO2 emissions. China, the world’s largest CO2 emitter, is planning to double its yearly emissions, by an extra 10.9 billion tons. India, the third largest emitter, will treble its emissions, adding 4.9 billion tons, All the other major “developing” nations, plus Japan and Russia, are equally planning to build more coal-fired power stations.So 13 of the countries which signed that G20 communiqué last week, intend to contribute to what the INDCs show will within 13 years be a 46 percent rise in global emissions. The only G20 countries left committed to CO2 reductions (by 1.7 billion tons) are now those in the EU, plus Canada and Australia, between them responsible for just 11.3 percent of global emissions. Most of the remaining 88.7 percent is emitted by countries which plan to increase them. Is it surprising that President Trump wanted no part in such a grotesque display of international hypocrisy? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...ng-wont-hide-rising/ NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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The answer to all of this is simple: Between the 1975 Newsweek article and Al Gore's 2000 career change, it was discovered that there's more money to be made in "hot" than in "cold." | |||
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If it does, blame it on repubs, conservatives in general, oil companies, people who don't recycle plastic bags . . . .  But on the upside, those who have taxpayer subsidized solar panels will have very cheap electricity. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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The more shrill the flat-earth AGW crowd gets, the closer they realize they are to being found out. Vanuatu is already supposed to be under water, but they have had very little change in their coastline. Receding ice in Greenland has revealed Viking farms. In Switzerland it has revealed a working silver mine that was abandoned in the advancing ice. | |||
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the Paris accord had nothing to do with the climate - it had everything to do with stifling US enterprise and sucking money out of our Treasury if it was so important, why no attempt to renegotiate? because it was only about money. And once the charade was up, there was nothing left. global warming has and always will be a farce - its almost to the point where its criminal - and people should be arrested and tried for their crimes - top amongst them is AlGore and perhaps toss in Leonardo as a cellmate [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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That needs a repeat.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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The OP article was comedy gold. The fact that the intellectual writing it really thinks his bullshit is the gospel makes it even funnier. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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The environmentalists are supposed to be all about "sustainability". Where are they when you point out that their political programs are unsustainable? _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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Prominent spot in my closet... I should be tall and rich too; That ain't gonna happen either | |||
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