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The Ironies of Illegal Immigration
By Victor Davis Hanson
January 9th, 2019

Estimates suggest that there are 11 million to 13 million Mexican citizens currently living in the United States illegally. Millions more emigrated previously and are now U.S. citizens.

A recent poll revealed that one-third of Mexicans (34 percent) would like to emigrate to the United States. With Mexico having a population of about 130 million, that amounts to some 44 million would-be immigrants.

Such massive potential emigration into the United States makes no sense.

First, Mexico is a naturally rich country. It ranks 19th in the world in proven oil reserves and is currently the 12th-largest oil producer. Mexico certainly has significantly more natural advantages than do far wealthier per capita Singapore, Taiwan or Chile.

Mexico also is one of the world’s most popular tourist destinations and earns billions in foreign exchange from visitors. It enjoys a temperate climate, is rich in minerals, and has millions of acres of fertile farmland and a long coastline.

In addition to being strategically located as a bridge between North America and South America, Mexico has ports on both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

It is not an overcrowded country: Mexico ranks in the lower half of the world in population density. Too many people and too little land are certainly not the reasons why millions of Mexicans either emigrate or wish to emigrate to the United States.

Second, popular progressive narratives in both Mexico and the United States cite America for all sorts of pathologies, past and present. The United States is often damned for prior colonialism and imperialism, as well as current racism and xenophobia.

Why, then, would millions of people south of the border leave their own homeland and potentially risk their lives to encounter a strange culture and language, to live in such a purportedly inhospitable place, and to adapt to an antithetical system based on supposedly toxic European and Protestant traditions?

The answers to these two paradoxes are as obvious as they are politically incorrect and therefore seldom voiced. Life in Mexico is relatively poor, dangerous, and often unfree. In contrast, the United States is rich, generous, and secure.

Mexico—unlike, say, Japan or Switzerland, which are far less naturally endowed and yet far wealthier—has never fully adopted Western paradigms of free-market economics, constitutionally protected free speech, due process, gender equity, private property rights, an autonomous press, government transparency, an independent judiciary, and religious diversity and tolerance.

To the degree that Mexico can make strides toward these goals, its population will stabilize and become more affluent—and also become less likely to emigrate.

More importantly, millions of Mexican citizens recognize (at least privately) that the United States is not the bogeyman of mostly elite critiques. Instead, it is one of the world’s rare multiracial, equal-opportunity societies. It is generous with its entitlements even to those who cross its border illegally, and far more meritocratic than most of the world’s highly tribal societies.

Maybe that is why millions of impoverished people from Mexico have left their homes in expectation that they will be treated far better as foreign, non-English speakers in a strange land than they will at home by their own government.

Indeed, if the United States treated immigrants in the fashion that Mexico does, then Mexican citizens would probably never come here.

In sum, illegal immigration is both logical and nonsensical.

After all, the Mexican government is quick to fault the United States, but it is rarely introspective. It does not explain publicly why its own citizens wish to flee the country where they were born—or why they are eager to enter a country that is so often ridiculed by the Mexican press and government.

Mexico apparently does not take care of its own citizens. But once they arrive inside the United States, Mexico suddenly becomes an advocate for their welfare. No wonder: Mexican expatriates send back an estimated $30 billion a year in remittances.

Real and would-be emigrants themselves also act ironically.

On both sides of the border, they often fault the United States and demand that U.S. immigration law be suspended—but only in their case.

Emigrating Mexican citizens wave Mexican flags at the border as they try to enter America, while their counterparts inside the United States do the same when they protest being sent back home.

Apparently, no one in Mexico or in the U.S. ever wishes to admit that Mexican citizens really like the United States—apparently far more than they do their own homeland.

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Just installing a US-like government in Mexico, with all the rights, etc. that our citizens possess, would not work. The citizenry must also be infused with the concepts of freedom and responsibility that such a government requires to be stable and effective (and which we are rapidly losing). Fixing Mexico to the point that its citizens don't want to flock here will be a long, drawn-out process.

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Just installing a US-like government in Mexico, with all the rights, etc. that our citizens possess, would not work. The citizenry must also be infused with the concepts of freedom and responsibility that such a government requires to be stable and effective (and which we are rapidly losing). Fixing Mexico to the point that its citizens don't want to flock here will be a long, drawn-out process.

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Yes, but definitely doable. They are hard-working people and would make a great society if given a chance. It couldn't happen over night, but over the next 30 years.

Another irony, if Mexico stabilized, the flow would reverse. Wealthy Americans would scoop up retirement property there and tourism would boom. Jobs and the economy to go with it for locals. My parents foolishly bought a lot down there with an ocean view intending to build a retirement home...just a few years before the security situation totally went sideways. Now they can't give it away.




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I once asked a friend from Mexico what it would take for Mexico to be "fixed". He openly admitted it would need to be totally wiped off the planet and started over. That's how deep the CENTURIES of corruption has taken that dung heap. And yes...I believe I've been to Mexico enough that I qualify to label it a dung heap. And I hate that it's that way...it's a really beautiful country and most of its citizenry are hard-working, wonderful people.



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Another irony, if Mexico stabilized, the flow would reverse. Wealthy Americans would scoop up retirement property there and tourism would boom. Jobs and the economy to go with it for locals.

You just described San Miguel de Allende.
Now, if only other Mexican municipalities can follow suit....

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On both sides of the border, they often fault the United States and demand that U.S. immigration law be suspended—but only in their case.

Oh, you noticed? Yeah, I haven't heard anything about the caravan recently either - particularly from Mexico, La Raza, MeCHA...
 
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You just described San Miguel de Allende.


I just spent the last 45 minutes checking it out including real estate prices. Yeah, that place looks pretty good!




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Yes, but definitely doable. They are hard-working people and would make a great society if given a chance. It couldn't happen over night, but over the next 30 years.
If you want to see a disaster, have the US try and meddle to that degree in Mexico. No matter how ridiculously screwed up Mexico is, if any other country attempted to interfere and change their government/society, you can bet they'd attack that country on virtually every level. Mexico is a mess and its residents, as well as those from Guatemala and San Salvador, need to stay in their own countries, and we need to have a border and immigration system that insures that result.


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^^^

Totally agree, we need no get involved directly at all, we need to physically secure our border. Indirectly through trade and support of policies that move them forward.




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Totally agree, we need not get involved directly at all, we need to physically secure our border. Indirectly through trade and support of policies that move them forward.




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The interesting thing about Hansen is that not only is he a native Californian, living in the same farm he grew up in, but that he is still a resident of the San Joaquin Valley, perhaps the poorest county in CA, home to Fresno, Bakersfield, Modesto, Stockton, etc. A HUGE population of illegal aliens.



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