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No surprise here. Remote learning does nothing to help kids learn social skills and proper behavior. School districts across the U.S. say they are seeing a surge of student misbehavior in the return to in-person learning, after months of closures and disruptions due to the pandemic. In the hallway between classes one afternoon this fall at Southwood High School in Shreveport, La., two boys exchanged words. All at once, they jumped at each other, witnesses said. Dozens of other students joined and they all fell into a heap, kicking and punching, until teachers pulled them apart. The fight was one in a series of brawls in Southwood’s courtyards and hallways on three subsequent days that led to 23 students being arrested and expelled. School officials say they had never seen anything like it before at Southwood, known for its Cowboys football team, its biotechnology program and its scenic location on a former cattle ranch. The academically strong school has a 99% graduation rate for its student body of more than 1,600. “We knew it was going to be a problem with kids transitioning back from virtual, because they haven’t been in school for a couple of years,” said Southwood’s principal, Kim Pendleton. “You have eighth-graders that are now 10th-graders or seventh-graders that are now ninth-graders, and no time to really acclimate.” Schools have seen an increase in both minor incidents, like students talking in class, and more serious issues, such as fights and gun possession. In Dallas, disruptive classroom incidents have tripled this year compared with pre-pandemic levels, school officials said. The Albuquerque, N.M., superintendent sent a letter to parents warning of a “rise in violence and unacceptable behaviors posted to social media” that have disrupted classes. The National Association of School Resource Officers said it has seen a rise in gun-related incidents in schools. Some schools are responding to the disciplinary problems by dispatching more staffers to patrol school grounds or by hiring more counselors. Others are reducing student suspensions, or in Dallas, eliminating them altogether in favor of counseling. Some districts have enacted what they call mental-health days, closing schools around holidays to give students and administrators a break. Peoria, Ill., is planning a special school that would be dedicated to students with issues caused by the pandemic. Educators at disadvantaged schools, often in low-income neighborhoods, said they had anticipated students would return to in-person learning with mental-health scars from Covid-19. The issues are also coming up at schools that previously had few serious incidents, such as Southwood. Parents in the relatively affluent suburb of Cherry Creek, Colo., outside Denver, said they were surprised to receive a letter from their school district in November that expressed concern over recent increases in the number of behavioral incidents involving high-school students. “On-campus behavior issues include students treating each other and adults disrespectfully in and out of class in addition to leaving trash in halls, cafeterias, and outdoor spaces,” according to the letter sent to families from Cherry Creek High School. The letter asked parents to speak to their children about appropriate behavior and noted that incidents of misbehavior were occurring off-campus as well. The last school year that wasn’t affected by Covid-19 was 2018-19—three years ago—which has in part hurt routines, discipline and social skills, officials said. “For some of our students, they really have never experienced a ‘normal’ year of high school,” said Cherry Creek district spokeswoman Abbe Smith. Peter Faustino, a school psychologist in New York who serves on the board of directors for the National Association of School Psychologists, said school psychologists across the country have seen roughly the same volume of mental-health complaints and behavioral issues in the first three months of the school year that used to occur in an entire academic year. 'It was a mess,' said senior Jordan Nash of a fight he witnessed at Southwood High School. Makayla Crutchfield, also a senior, said that classmates are slowly overcoming their shyness after the start of the year. ) “I think the pandemic was like an earthquake and I think we are seeing that tidal wave hit shore,” he said. L.V. Stockard Middle School, in the Dallas neighborhood of Oak Cliff, used to suspend students who misbehave. It now sends them to what the district calls a reset center, typically in unused classrooms and sometimes in outdoor sessions, where they get counseling for between one to three days. One day in October, three students who had gotten into trouble sat on beanbags arranged in a circle outdoors near the school’s entrance. Pierre Fleurinor, the school’s reset center coordinator, pulled up a bean bag and sat down with them. He began with some chatty questions: Which superhero is their favorite and why? What is their favorite cereal? The three students passed a ball among them to indicate who was speaking. Then Mr. Fleurinor turned serious, asking what they were doing to avoid the misbehavior that had led to their disciplinary problems. “Talking about it like this helps,” said Masiah Jones, 12 years old. The seventh-grader had landed in Mr. Fleurinor’s reset center for repeatedly talking with another girl while her teacher was giving lessons. She had never been in trouble before, she said, and had wanted to catch up with her friend, whom she hadn’t seen since the pandemic began. Masiah’s mother, Anissa Freeney, said her daughter had sometimes felt isolated and disconnected from friends during school closures. “She definitely didn’t get to see them, and they really don’t communicate on the phone,” Ms. Freeney said. “It was like a void was there.” Masiah hasn’t been in trouble in class since attending the reset center. Time away from school during the pandemic has set back many students, Mr. Fleurinor said. “In that year off, we lost a lot of social maturity. So, they don’t know how to express their emotions,” he said. In Dallas, elementary-school students now start the day with a 45-minute social-emotional learning session. One recent morning, third-graders at H.I. Holland Elementary School talked about their favorite weekend activities, followed by hand-clapping games in which they had to feign touching each other’s hands due to social-distancing rules. The session ended with breathing exercises. Such social-emotional lessons remind children how to communicate, said teacher Josefina Berry. “They were isolated for so long that they kind of lost that tune,” she said. Frank Zenere, a Miami school psychologist and crisis management specialist at the district’s division of student services, said the pandemic has had a greater impact on student behavior than other traumatic events, such as Sept. 11 or hurricanes. “An abnormal reaction to an abnormal situation is normal behavior,” Mr. Zenere said. “And in that context, I think we’re seeing a lot of normal reactions for what they’ve been through.” At Southwood High School, senior Jordan Nash witnessed the big fight among students in the hallway. “It seemed like they were just swinging at people left and right,” said the 17-year-old, who has an interest in studying neuroscience. “Then you have the police siren going off, trying to break up the fight. It was a mess.” Jordan wasn’t hit, but watching the fight, and then the adults pulling everyone apart, was draining, he said. “Ever since we got back to school, we have to deal with Covid, and, also here, we have to deal with the fighting and violence,” he said. “It’s a lot.” Most of the students involved in the fights were underclassmen, said Dr. Pendleton, Southwood’s principal, and were simply unprepared for a new school after nearly two years of virtual learning. Many carried emotional baggage from the pandemic, including sick or dead family members, lost jobs and homelessness, she said. In the wake of the fighting, police established patrols at Southwood. Dr. Pendleton expanded a student mentoring program and added counselors and security officers. A group of fathers of students formed a daily patrol, called Dads on Duty, to walk the school hallways and courtyards. One of the group’s founders, Michael La’Fitte, a local entrepreneur, said the Southwood fathers act as hall monitors and play the role of “cool uncle” with students. He said they seek to be a calming influence on kids who are anxious about Covid-19 stresses as well as a crime wave in the city that has prompted police to enforce a nighttime curfew. “This is different for all of us,” Mr. La’Fitte said of life coming out of the pandemic. “We’re all trying to adjust to this, even at this moment.” link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/s...247?mod=hp_lead_pos5 | ||
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Fire begets Fire |
Gooberment schools = goober-marxist indoctrination "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Ignored facts still exist |
That's a dumb idea full of liability when TSHTF. we pay how much in property taxes for this shit? . | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Can confirm. It's been a wild year for juvenile crime and misbehavior, partly exacerbated by post-lockdown wackiness, partly by stupid TikTok challenges, and mostly due to the continued breakdown of society and family.
There's been a national organization like that for decades, called Watchdogs. There's a chapter in my area, and we had Watchdog Dads at the schools where I was a SRO:
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I'm quickly coming to the conclusion minors should be banned from all social media platforms. These are the years during which developing minds need to learn to socialize. Social media does just the opposite. In fact it would probably more accurately be termed Anti-Social Media. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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My daughter is a student counselor. She is dealing with so many issues with students, one has actually made national news that she has sought outside counseling for herself. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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Remote learning may be a factor with this situation, but another is coddled, consequence free parenting. Lets all sit on bean bags and talk about superheroes. When I was in school, if I acted up I would have been tossed out and my old man would have turned me into a bean bag. Geezer rant now off! End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Call me cynical if you wish, but this sounds very much like typical teacher union propaganda "home schooling is evil!" Wonder where the "news" is that kids learned more at home than they would have in Govt. schools (e.g. based on standardized testing)? If the reverse had been true, it would be all over the MSM! | |||
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Or the material they are supposed to be learning. Say what you will, and I've said it for years, there is something about sitting in a brick and mortar classroom that promotes learning. You do not get that at home. All of this "remote learning" Zoom BS has proven me correct. ETA: I am strongly in favor of home-schooling, provided it is structured, in a "classroom" environment, and done by someone qualified to teach the material. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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I'm a school bus driver. I can say that this year is head and shoulders the worst that I have ever seen, absolutely the worst. I'm not the only driver that sees it. So bad it is that 18+ year veterans behind the wheel are to the point of quitting! I used to love going to work, but with the kids the way they have acted, I dred getting up. The kids are disrespectful, entitled, smart mouthed. Disobedient. I'm tired of it. That's the good parts. ARman | |||
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Nearly 2 yrs of remote learning has given these kids a chance to see exactly how checked out, distracted, and powerless their parents really are. And if your parents are powerless to correct your behavior, the logical conclusion is that every other adult is too. I'm seeing it in sports coaching as well. The experienced kids know how to behave. The new kids are a mess. I won't put up with it. And kids are genuinely shocked when they figure out I'm serious about pulling them out, giving pushups, and sending them home if the pushups don't work. Recently I had one parent start a text msg and social media complaint thread about I how I routinely shame children. Shame them in public no less by making them do pushups in practice. Holy Mother God! The horror! ---------------------------------- "If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.." - Thomas Sowell | |||
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This worked when I was a kid…even for a hard headed kid like me "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Title is wrong. Remote learning is not the problem. The parents are there problem. Same as misbehaving dogs. This is a parenting issue, or lack thereof, not a learning issue. Any problem needs to have the proper root identified in order to resolve properly. Learning is a function. It’s not a person. Identify the people, not a thing. Same thing with gun violence. Guns is not the issue. It’s the people using the gun to do bad things. Remote learning may have augmented bad parenting. As in, bad parenting is the cause and in-school environments lends to some corrective aspects. But remote learning is incidental to the issue. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Thank you Very little |
Dempanic and the continuation of "new" strains overreaching governments contribute to poor mental health... | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
I thought about this for a while… And then I realized our school bus drivers probably said the same things back in the 1970s. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
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Oh the good ole days of corporal punishment should be revisited for some. It worked wonders for my attitude when I thought I knew better than the adults in the room. I know it does not work for everyone, but made me the man I am today. 1. Grandmother would make me go pick out a switch to have my backside adjusted. I tried several different styles. They are all bad. Lesson learned: Do not mess with Grandma. 2. My mother would make me go get my belt. Big thick leather belt with my name on the back. Left a grand impression on on my backside, and my attitude. Lesson learned: Do not mess with Mom. 3. I did not dare lip off or act up around my dad. I could be an ass, but I wasn't a dumbass. Lesson learned: Do not mess with Dad. Due to lessons 1 through 3 above, I never had to learn a lesson from my high school principal. He would bring you into his office and would have you face the wall of duck decoys. Then he would grab his wooden paddle (with "speed" holes drilled in it for better airflow) from the wall. He would say bend over and pick a duck. That way you had to stretch your back and head up so everything was tightened up. Then he would let the paddle fly. Was quite the presentation from what I was told. It's all about clean living. Just do the right thing, and karma will help with the rest. | |||
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Counting the 3 today, 23 guns have been found in Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools since school started. The Superintendent blames covid. | |||
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There should be a list somewhere. The miracles of covid: 1. Brought back Moderna from insolvency 2. Eliminated the annual flu 3. Leads to injections that cause unexplainable syndrome that causes heart attacks and such 4. Leads to more people carry guns and gun violence 5. Leads to misbehavior in students 6. Leads to 123 tons of face mask waste 7. blah blah Pretty amazing for a virus so scary that it has a 99.8% recovery rate. And probably higher if so called doctors actually used working protocols. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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The Ice Cream Man |
I think some of this will also be the side effect of kids who spent 2 years not being bullied, not feeling like tolerating it. | |||
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