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The SCOTUS confirmation circus has begun....

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September 23, 2018, 09:52 PM
Pipe Smoker
The SCOTUS confirmation circus has begun....
Buck up! As Para said, it’ll feel sooo good when Kavanaugh is confirmed!

And Judge Kavanaugh will be all smiles after winning the several $multimillion defamation of character lawsuits that he’ll file. The lying Dem sluts don’t have that much money, so they won’t be able to pay, but they’ll be living hand-to-mouth for the rest of their lives.



Don’t argue with fools.
September 23, 2018, 09:55 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by slosig:
Am I the only one who thinks that there are many folks who should be swinging from lampposts?
Heads on pikes across the capital lawn with a 24/7 webcams broadcasting the display would be my choice.


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
September 23, 2018, 09:55 PM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
So the question is...when does the bullshit become so transparent that even Flake, Collins and Murkowski begin to feel like they're being insulted, jerked around and publicly played for fools?
Personally, I think McConnell and the senate leadership should make it crystal clear to Collins and Murkowski that if they vote the wrong way on this conformation, and Repubs how onto the senate majority after November (maybe even increasing their majority), they will never again play any role with the senate. No committee appointments, no significance at all. Flake will eventually fall in line (he's a fricking coward) when Collins and Murkowski do.


Flake falls out of office in December.

When Collins and Merkowski get that e-mail, they will reply, “You will no longer be majority leader when we vote against you.” He serves at their pleasure, not vice versa.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
September 23, 2018, 10:00 PM
12131
To anyone on our side who suggests that his nomination be pulled now, I just have to shake my head in disgust. Let his name be dragged through the mud, hung him out to dry, be played like a fools like you're in the Little League, and now you want to dump him? And him not having a chance to "face his accuser"? Totally disgusting. If I were the judge, I would never withdraw my name. I would fight for my good name and let the votes fall where they may.

Dumping him is admitting defeat and giving the maggots total control of any future games. Roll Eyes


Q






September 23, 2018, 10:00 PM
Il Cattivo
Honestly, I'd rather that Collins and Murkowski were pissed off than see the other Reps try to herd them into doing the right thing. Not only would that render Flake irrelevant, but I bet it would smooth the paths of future nominees (even if only for a while) as well.

As for pulling Kavanaugh, why would anyone bother? Better to shove him down the Dems' throats.
September 23, 2018, 10:03 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by wcb6092:
More chaos. This is the plan.
Notice that it was agreed the hearing would be open to the public. Its also been shared that a whole bunch of leftist organizations are busing in their garbage to protest. Can you imagine the likely shit show the hearing room will become when Judge Kavanaugh is questioned?


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
September 23, 2018, 10:06 PM
Il Cattivo
Eh, it had to be open to the public if only because it would look like the Reps were afraid or ashamed of something if it were not.

As for the shitshow, well...see my previous post. If they send in an all-fired circus, that may be the best and most efficient way to piss off Collins, Flake and Murkowski. Pissing off Flake gets Kavanaugh out of the committee with a "yes" recommendation. Any two of them or all three together would, of course, make the nomination a foregone conclusion.

Wouldn't it be funny if the shitshow turned out to be Kavanaugh's best friend? There is a point where all of this sort of thing really does tend to work against whichever side it putatively supports.
September 23, 2018, 10:10 PM
JALLEN
OTOH, if the voters return a 53-57 seat majority in the Senate, maybe things will be easier after that. Somewhere between 3 and 6 seats were thought to be realistic.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
September 23, 2018, 10:11 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
So the question is...when does the bullshit become so transparent that even Flake, Collins and Murkowski begin to feel like they're being insulted, jerked around and publicly played for fools?
Personally, I think McConnell and the senate leadership should make it crystal clear to Collins and Murkowski that if they vote the wrong way on this conformation, and Repubs how onto the senate majority after November (maybe even increasing their majority), they will never again play any role with the senate. No committee appointments, no significance at all. Flake will eventually fall in line (he's a fricking coward) when Collins and Murkowski do.


Flake falls out of office in December.

When Collins and Merkowski get that e-mail, they will reply, “You will no longer be majority leader when we vote against you.” He serves at their pleasure, not vice versa.
And if Repub's take all the senate seats they could potentially win while holding those they are being challenged for, Collins and Murkowski's votes will mean exactly 'jack'. Personally, I don't think Collins is going to be a problem in the end, and her yes vote should bring a yes vote from Murkowski with it. And as I noted previously, Flake is far to big a coward to be the only Repub vote against Kavanuagh, a vote that would essentially be nullified when Pence voted to confirm Judge Kavanaugh.


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Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter
September 23, 2018, 10:15 PM
Il Cattivo
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
OTOH, if the voters return a 53-57 seat majority in the Senate, maybe things will be easier after that. Somewhere between 3 and 6 seats were thought to be realistic.

May we all remember this moment when the opportunity arises to encourage Republicans to vote.
September 23, 2018, 10:20 PM
chellim1
quote:
Personally, I don't think Collins is going to be a problem in the end, and her yes vote should bring a yes vote from Murkowski with it. And as I noted previously, Flake is far to big a coward to be the only Repub vote against Kavanuagh, a vote that would essentially be nullified when Pence voted to confirm Judge Kavanaugh.

I think that's about right. Collins is the key. Grassley and McConnell know it, which is why this entire thing is designed to get/keep her vote.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
September 23, 2018, 10:51 PM
Sigmanic
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
OTOH, if the voters return a 53-57 seat majority in the Senate, maybe things will be easier after that. Somewhere between 3 and 6 seats were thought to be realistic.

May we all remember this moment when the opportunity arises to encourage Republicans to vote.




I'll second that - let's hope this bullshit fires up the base!
September 23, 2018, 11:03 PM
2012BOSS302
In addition to using the earlier link to Grassley, I sent out a similar email to every Republican Senator (and a couple I). Basically asking them to confirm Judge Kavanaugh. Kept it short and polite.

https://www.senate.gov/general...ion/senators_cfm.cfm




Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless.
September 23, 2018, 11:22 PM
sdy
agree. flood them
September 24, 2018, 01:12 AM
grumpy1
This statement by Chuck Grassley is encouraging and hopefully they will move to a full senate vote soon rather than get bogged down by more preposterous allegations.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ithholding-info.html

"Sen. Chuck Grassley, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, late Sunday slammed Senate Democrats for withholding information from the committee regarding new sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

The Iowa Republican said the committee will attempt to evaluate the new claims, but said in a statement “it appears that they [Democrats] are more interested in a political takedown" than “pursing allegations through a bipartisan and professional investigative process.”

His office released the statement after two new allegations emerged against Kavanaugh."
September 24, 2018, 02:41 AM
46and2
So now there are three accusers (the porn star lawyer is saying he has a third one).

This whole sandbagging approach reeks, to say the least.
September 24, 2018, 03:25 AM
R K9 J
President Trump should ask the FBI to investigate … the two (now possibly three) accusers. Sitting across a table from an FBI agent with the threat that if what they are saying is not true could send to jail may be enough for them to stop this nonsense.
September 24, 2018, 04:13 AM
HK Ag
This is why you do not let the Dems have an inch of ground. Our side should have held the committee vote last Thursday as planned. This is the same MO used with Judge Moore in Alabama.

When will the Republicans grow a set?!? The Dems realize a lot of their shit ends with a Kavanaugh on the court so it is scorched earth time!!

HK Ag
September 24, 2018, 05:48 AM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by R K9 J:
President Trump should ask the FBI to investigate … the two (now possibly three) accusers. Sitting across a table from an FBI agent with the threat that if what they are saying is not true could send to jail may be enough for them to stop this nonsense.


Is this possible/feasible?
Part of me thinks that if accusers want the FBI to investigate the accused, they should be ready to accept a similar investigation themselves.
And certainly, it should be made clear that false testimony (lying) will be punished.




God bless America.
September 24, 2018, 06:36 AM
sdy
Don't have time to write much at the moment.

But I did want to say that yesterday I was pretty depressed when the new stories came out. Even though it seemed likely the DEMs would hit w multiple attacks.

My point is:

This is the time to attack. For REPs to attack.

Will write more later.