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The SCOTUS confirmation circus has begun....

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October 04, 2018, 11:56 AM
sigmonkey
The SCOTUS confirmation circus has begun....
The Red Tide Trumps the blue wave.

Let's Roll...




"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
October 04, 2018, 11:57 AM
lkdr1989
Red October Big Grin

quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
The Red Tide Trumps the blue wave.

Let's Roll...





...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

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October 04, 2018, 12:07 PM
JALLEN
No minds have been changed in the production of this made for cable TV reality show.

Who will be voted off the island?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
October 04, 2018, 12:07 PM
chellim1
quote:
What I like to see from members, in a situation such as this, is confidence and defiance. I like for members to bolster each other. Don't be cynical. Instead, be resolute.

Thank you, Para.

Red October, precedes a Red November! Big Grin



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
October 04, 2018, 12:09 PM
Ackks
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
well, well, well

https://www.breitbart.com/big-...o-53-to-decide-vote/

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) signaled in an interview published Thursday that decades-old sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh will not play a major role in his vote on the judge’s Supreme Court confirmation.

Manchin, a key Democrat swing vote, lamented the Senate Judiciary Committee’s handling of its investigation into allegations against Kavanaugh, describing the previous few weeks as “horrible” and a “circus.”

I am looking at the gentleman as an adult from 22 to 53 , thirty-one years of professional service,” Manchin told Al-Jazeera. “I am looking at him as a father. As a person in a community, how he interacts with his community. I am trying to put the human side to it.”

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is there a hint in there ? anybody ?

there is a video of Manchin saying that at the link

in the video Manchin says he is looking "for clarity" in the report. At the time of this statement, Manchin had not read the report yet

Manchin knows he is going to be confirmed, so he is trying to save his seat.
October 04, 2018, 12:16 PM
Ryanp225
quote:
Originally posted by Ackks:

Manchin knows he is going to be confirmed, so he is trying to save his seat.

That's what I read into it as well. Great news!
October 04, 2018, 12:19 PM
2BobTanner
quote:
Originally posted by Ackks:
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
well, well, well

https://www.breitbart.com/big-...o-53-to-decide-vote/

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) signaled in an interview published Thursday that decades-old sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh will not play a major role in his vote on the judge’s Supreme Court confirmation.

Manchin, a key Democrat swing vote, lamented the Senate Judiciary Committee’s handling of its investigation into allegations against Kavanaugh, describing the previous few weeks as “horrible” and a “circus.”

I am looking at the gentleman as an adult from 22 to 53 , thirty-one years of professional service,” Manchin told Al-Jazeera. “I am looking at him as a father. As a person in a community, how he interacts with his community. I am trying to put the human side to it.”

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

is there a hint in there ? anybody ?

there is a video of Manchin saying that at the link

in the video Manchin says he is looking "for clarity" in the report. At the time of this statement, Manchin had not read the report yet

Manchin knows he is going to be confirmed, so he is trying to save his seat.


If Manchin is going to vote FOR confirmation, he might as well go ahead and change his party affiliation to Republican, as he’ll lose any Dem votes in the Election.


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LGBFJB

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October 04, 2018, 12:38 PM
chellim1
quote:
Manchin knows he is going to be confirmed, so he is trying to save his seat.

Right now, that race is Manchin +8, but Manchin knows it will tighten to within the margin of error if he votes against Kavanaugh.
Nevertheless, he would probably vote with the Dems if it made a difference. He's not our biggest problem in Congress, but it would still be better if the people of W. Va. would defeat him.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
October 04, 2018, 12:41 PM
JALLEN
It’s hilarious how everybody frets about polls until the night of the election when we find out what crap most of them are.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
October 04, 2018, 12:45 PM
mbinky
Like the way Graham has been acting these last few weeks...nice tip to the Salem witch trials with the "dunk him in the water and see if he floats" shot Smile

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina did not take kindly to a protester who continued to yell about Supreme Court justice nominee Brett Kavanaugh while he was doing an interview at the Capitol. Graham had just reviewed the supplemental FBI report on the investigation into abuse allegations against Kavanaugh, and was briefing reporters on the contents. “150 plus people have been interviewed over a 20-something year period,” Graham stated, “The Brett Kavanaugh that I knew before the committee is the Brett Kavanaugh I know now, the only difference is an effort to ruin this man’s life. I am ready to vote.” Graham turned to walk down the hallway but spun around to give one last comment. A protester appeared behind him and began yelling that Kavanaugh should take a polygraph. “We’ve humiliated this guy enough, and there seems to be no bottom for some of you,” Graham said, turning directly to the protester. The protester cried, “If he took a polygraph –” before Graham interrupted her saying “Why don’t we dunk him in the water and see if he floats?” Graham continued, forcefully: “It will never be enough. If you don’t believe he is a gang rapist, if you don’t believe he is a stumbling, bumbling drunk, serial sexual predator, maybe you will believe he lied about how much he drank in high school. Threw ice at a party. Or he doesn’t have the temperament. Lets vote. I’m more confident than ever.”

Link
October 04, 2018, 12:54 PM
PASig
This guy from the Weekly Standard opines that this Flake-caused one week delay actually BACKFIRED on the Democrats.

No wonder they are back to attacking the FBI after spending the last year and a half lecturing us on how "noble" and "righteous" they are.
Roll Eyes

How Jeff Flake's One-Week Delay Helped Clear Brett Kavanaugh's Name


October 04, 2018, 12:58 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
This guy from the Weekly Standard opines that this Flake-caused one week delay actually BACKFIRED on the Democrats.
I'm of the same opinion.


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"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
October 04, 2018, 01:00 PM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
No minds have been changed in the production of this made for cable TV reality show.
While not a "reality" show, this made for cable TV film was released "conveniently" in April 2016, and saw a lot of replay right before the 2016 election, and came from an earlier nomination "circus:"

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4608402/


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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
October 04, 2018, 01:07 PM
mbinky
It had a lot of replay the past two weeks also. I saw it listed a few times.
October 04, 2018, 01:10 PM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
It had a lot of replay the past two weeks also. I saw it listed a few times.
I no longer have HBO, so I haven't followed the listings.


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"He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
October 04, 2018, 01:11 PM
a1abdj
Everybody jumps up and down and demands instant satisfaction. Yet if you pay close attention you'll see that most of these drawn out issues play out to our favor.

We see brighter lights on more cockroaches. Sometimes giving people more rope will result in a more prominent neck snapping at the bottom. Let's not deny these types the opportunities to do themselves in.


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October 04, 2018, 01:15 PM
sdy
The DEMs on the Senate Judiciary Comm sent a memo to Grassley on 3 Oct 2018. They were complaining that Grassley had said that there was not a whiff of any sexual behavior or alcohol abuse issues in the 6 prior FBI reports on Brett Kavanaugh.

The letter is BS. But the last 2 sentences are worth a laugh. The DEMs end the ltr with:

"There has long been a tradition of bipartisan cooperation regarding the handling of confidential background information on judicial nominees. We look forward to working with you to restore this bipartisan tradition."

For all those who watched Feinstein's 11th hour dirty trick, that has to bring a WTF moment.
October 04, 2018, 01:16 PM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
It’s hilarious how everybody frets about polls until the night of the election when we find out what crap most of them are.


Poll evil can be tough to cure.


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October 04, 2018, 01:18 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
This guy from the Weekly Standard opines that this Flake-caused one week delay actually BACKFIRED on the Democrats.


I posted the same thought last week, to paraphrase Trump, it was a blessing in disguise, telling everyone "sure, let's have the investigation" knowing full well that people caught in the vortex were gonna swirl down the drain.

And this gives Trump an awful lot of material to work with on the campaign trail leading up to November.



"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
October 04, 2018, 01:19 PM
HRK
The delay may have worked to stem off the latest D delay tactic, and now it's time to end this.

Perhaps part of the screenplay is to keep the nomination open and in play allowing more absurd claims to surface from the D, more cries from the left for something to hurt BK and upset the process from fair to farce, resulting in a negative impact to the D in the election.

You keep running it out as long as you can, then vote him in at the last minute, heck I believe they can still vote him in after the election even if the D retake the senate as they don't seat until Jan.

The more they protest over stupid stuff the more the D look lunatic...

Still, end it, vote him in.