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From USA Today. I'm shocked. https://start.att.net/news/rea...ugh_assault-rgannett Christine Blasey Ford's Changing Kavanaugh Assault Story Leaves Her Short On Credibility USA TODAY — Margot Cleveland When Christine Blasey Ford testified last week before the Judiciary Committee, America witnessed a haunted woman recounting a devastating trauma. But putting aside Ford’s emotional performance and focusing instead on the professor’s testimony reveals numerous inconsistencies in her narrative that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her. As a sex-crimes prosecutor, Republican questioner Rachel Mitchell is well-positioned to “know it when she sees it.” But rather than see Ford as a victim of sexual abuse by Kavanaugh, Mitchell saw her as a witness lacking in credibility. And this conclusion comes from an expert who knows that there are many reasons victims delay reporting sexual abuse. Mitchell also recognized that victims may legitimately not remember certain details related to an attack. But the problem for Ford is not that she doesn’t remember everything: It is that everything she remembers changes at her convenience. First, Ford’s testimony that the assault occurred in the summer of 1982, when just 15, conflicted with both her therapist’s notes and the text message Ford sent to the Washington Post. According to reporter Emma Brown, Ford claimed she had been assaulted in the mid-1980s; and the therapist’s notes stated Ford had been the victim of an attempted rape in her late teens. But by that time, Kavanaugh was attending Yale, so Ford’s recasting of the attack to the summer of 1982 is suspect. Ford's story changed in key ways Ford’s retelling of the alleged sexual assault also included several conflicting accounts of the number of individuals at the gathering. The therapist’s notes stated that four boys had attempted to rape Ford. (Ford claims her therapist confused the total number of boys at the party with the number of boys who had attacked her.) Later, in her July letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Ford again placed the number of individuals at the party at five, stating the gathering included her and four other individuals. But Ford then identified the four by name, and that group included three boys and one girl. And finally, during her Senate testimony, Ford unequivocally stated that “there were four boys I remember specifically being there,” in addition to her friend Leland Keyser. Another significant change in the scenario came when Ford testified about the location of the party. She had originally told the Washington Post that the attack took place at a house not far from the country club. Yet, when Mitchell revealed a map of the relevant locations and reminded Ford that she had described the attack as having occurred near the country club, Ford backtracked: “I would describe [the house] as it's somewhere between my house and the country club in that vicinity that’s shown in your picture.” Ford added that the country club was a 20-minute drive from her home. Finally, Ford altered her description of the interior layout of the home and the details of the party and her escape. A “short” stairwell turned into a “narrow” one. The gathering moved from a small family room where the kids drank beer (and which Ford distinguished from the living room through which she fled the house) when she spoke to the Washington Post, to a home described in her actual testimony as having a "small living room/family room-type area.” And in an obvious tell to the change, Ford suggested that she could draw a floor plan of the house. These four points are significant. First, because Ford had waited 30-plus years to report the purported attack, a therapist’s notes from Ford's sessions with her husband countered claims that Ford had invented the assault to derail Kavanaugh’s confirmation. But the notes did not name Ford’s attacker. And the timing of the assault summarized by her therapist, whom Ford saw individually the following year, conflicted with Ford’s current claims against Kavanaugh. The final three contradictions are even more significant because in each circumstance Ford altered her story only after Kavanaugh and Senate investigators had obtained evidence to disprove her original tale. For instance, investigators had obtained statements from Kavanaugh and the two men and one female lifelong friend of Ford’s, and they all denied any recollection of the gathering. These contradictions mean Ford's not credible Investigators also spoke with former classmates of Kavanaugh, including two men who showed staffers the “party houses” near the country club during the relevant time period. And the detailed description of the home interior Ford originally provided allowed investigators to compare her story to the layout of the homes of the individuals Ford identified. But then Ford changed her description of the house’s floor plan. Since media leaks of Ford’s charges first broke, Kavanaugh and his supporters have stressed the impossibility of proving the negative: Kavanaugh could not prove he did not attack Ford. But Kavanaugh could prove that Ford’s story could not possibly have happened by showing that none of the individuals at the supposed party lived in a house near the country club, and that none of their houses matched that described by Ford. Kavanaugh and investigators were poised to do so when Ford changed her story. Open-minded Americans of all stripes should see that — emotions aside — Ford’s testimony is completely devoid of credibility: so much so, that Mitchell told the Senate this week that Ford’s allegations do not even meet the preponderance of evidence standard. That standard, which governs in civil litigation, asks whether it is more likely than not that an event occurred. Yes, victims must be believed. But Ford is not a victim — at least not of Kavanaugh. Margot Cleveland is a lawyer and an adjunct instructor at the University of Notre Dame. Follow her on Twitter: @ProfMJCleveland Q | |||
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Interesting... I think maybe they know he will be confirmed and might be trying to salvage some credibility for their own paper... "See, we aren't completely one sided!" "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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"Yes, victims must be believed. But Ford is not a victim — at least not of Kavanaugh." I'm shocked and amazed this made it into the newspaper - and not as a wishy-washy "hard to tell the truth". Instead, a logical deconstruction of the case based on facts not feels with a hard unequivocal conclusion. Can't believe it from the left, but there it is. “Forigive your enemy, but remember the bastard’s name.” -Scottish proverb | |||
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And now, let's get the fuck on with it. This has been drawn out far too long. Enough of the lies and the tantrums. | |||
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They have to start the hearings all over again. The FBI found ice in Kavanaugh’s fridge! | |||
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I think the commies see the handwriting on the wall. You did your evil best, you utterly unscrupulous criminal TRASH. Now, kindly kill yourselves, and don't take too long in getting to it. You're stinking up the planet. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Again, Trump making the right decision in choosing Kavanaugh. Even though a shitstorm by any definition, this has galvanized the Republicans, where 6 months ago, this was not seen as a possibility. Just in time for November. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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and if you were wondering whether the Clinton's were really involved, consider 1) their thirst for vengeance, and 2) - this:  http://dcwhispers.com/you-dont...this-memo-from-1998/ NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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Could someone please take that USA Today article to Collins, Murkowski, and Flake and force each one of them to read every damn word. Maybe then these morons could start to form a clue. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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He does write very well, doesn’t he? Clear, logical, organized, direct... Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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I'm not shocked at all. Margot Cleveland's bio on Twitter is more telling than what's printed in USA Today: Margot Cleveland @ProfMJCleveland Conservative, Catholic, law clerk~25 yrs fed. judge, Adjunct Instr. Notre Dame, Lawyer, freelance @FDRLST @NRO @dcexaminer @aleteia Mom to CFer. Opinions mine. https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland You might find this tweet interesting: https://twitter.com/ProfMJClev.../1046842589020925952 ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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https://www.judiciary.senate.g...ete-its-time-to-vote Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley of Iowa issued the following statement “I’ve now received a committee staff briefing on the FBI’s supplement to Judge Kavanaugh’s background investigation file. There’s nothing in it that we didn’t already know . These uncorroborated accusations have been unequivocally and repeatedly rejected by Judge Kavanaugh, and neither the Judiciary Committee nor the FBI could locate any third parties who can attest to any of the allegations. There’s also no contemporaneous evidence. This investigation found no hint of misconduct and the same is true of the six prior FBI background investigations conducted during Judge Kavanaugh’s 25 years of public service. “I trust that the career agents of the FBI have done their work independent of political or partisan considerations. That’s exactly what senators from both sides asked for. Now it’s up to senators to fulfill their constitutional duty and make a judgment. “No one is on trial and the Senate is not a courtroom. But our nation’s tradition of fairness still applies. A presumption of innocence is how the American justice system works, and it should remain our guidepost in the Senate. Abandoning that principle would cut a sad path for the Senate as an institution. “Here is what we know: Judge Kavanaugh’s former clerks, colleagues and friends from high school to the present acclaim his personal integrity and character. His neighbors and community members recognize his positive contributions to their schools and churches. And his fellow members of the legal profession know him to be a thoughtful and respectful jurist. His judicial record shows that he is fair and rules impartially and without prejudice. “Fundamentally, we senators ought to wipe away the muck from all the mudslinging and politics and look at this nomination with clear eyes. Judge Kavanaugh is one of the most qualified nominees to ever come before the Senate. He’s served with distinction for twelve years on the nation’s most important circuit court and dedicated himself to serving the American public. We know that he will be an excellent justice because he’s been an excellent judge. “ It’s time to vote . I’ll be voting to confirm Judge Kavanaugh.” | |||
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I would love to see Ramirez, the cartoonist, depict Booker as Spartacus, along with the entire bunch of pathetic loser's, defeated and beaten badly in this epic battle. He'd be bloodied, his armor dented and his sword broken, etc.! __________ __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." | |||
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'Or', picture an image of Kavanaugh in black robes with a big smile on his face being sworn in as our next SCOTUS judge, while in the background we see an open sewer with Feinstein, Booker, Harris, Coons, Hirono, and Blumenthal sporting devastated faces, slithering back into the filth. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Better yet, put Kavanaugh's head on Crowe, and replace the rest of the gladiator's faces with the Dems on the Judiciary Committee... "Are you not entertained?" NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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As soon as Ford started talking in her widdle-girly-voice, everyone in America who was watching-- except maybe for the stupidest of the stupid-- knew she was a phony, and this was one big con job. The strangle hold of #metoo is so strong, however, that no public figure would dare to come out and just state the obvious: She is a very bad actress, and her story is bullshit. There were, though, two great results: Republicans are pissed and energized for the midterms. And Lindsey Graham pulled an absolute Clark Kent to Superman transformation. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Speaking of Ramirez...  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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What a silver lining this has been for conservatives in this country!! At this point, to be honest, I don't give a f*ck if Justice Kavanaugh will be biased against libtards in SCOTUS. You reap what you sow! | |||
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I care about any potential bias. Judges should follow the Constitution and the law as written, based on the original meaning, not original intent. If a judge can't do that, regardless of what happened to them personally, they have no place on the bench. Judges are supposed to follow the law, not drive outcomes, and certainly not supposed to drive an outcome out of personal bias. ___________________________________________ "He was never hindered by any dogma, except the Constitution." - Ty Ross speaking of his grandfather General Barry Goldwater "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman | |||
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