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The SCOTUS confirmation circus has begun....
September 28, 2018, 11:47 AM
chellim1The SCOTUS confirmation circus has begun....
Corey Booker is just an ass.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor September 28, 2018, 11:47 AM
deepoceanDid someone on the R side about 15 minutes ago say the FBI did investigate Dr. Ford's claims and determined there was no need for further action?
September 28, 2018, 11:48 AM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
Sadly accurate.
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September 28, 2018, 11:49 AM
ensigmaticNow seeing rumblings that Flake flipped.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher September 28, 2018, 11:49 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
Corey Booker is just an ass.
He's not just an ass.
He's
SparkledustSeptember 28, 2018, 11:49 AM
ulstermanSo Booker doesn't like how the game is played so he just leaves? Take his ball and goes home? Childish.
September 28, 2018, 11:49 AM
recoatliftSpartacus has left the building!
September 28, 2018, 11:50 AM
tiwimonSTFU Booker! No its not an entitlement, Kavanaugh has had a stellar career and he worked hard to be worthy of a nomination
Glad to see him walk away - hope Booker's time on that committee he wanted since 2013 will come to an end.
September 28, 2018, 11:50 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Now seeing rumblings that Flake flipped.
I want you guys to cut this out. Some of you can't wait to be miserable. There will be a vote shortly.
Cut out the doomsday predictions. Cut it out.
I don't want to see another word in this thread about 'rumors'.
September 28, 2018, 11:53 AM
JALLENWith Spartacus leaving, the vote will now be 11-9.
He probably went off to smoke in Pocahontas’s teepee.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown September 28, 2018, 12:01 PM
rduckworVietnam Dick now holds forth. STFU Dickie. You calm doesn't fool anyone.
RMD
TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…”
Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
September 28, 2018, 12:01 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by 911Boss:
Victim needs to make a police report to start the process. Ms. Ford has not done so.
Not true.
Source?
RMD
The police can start an investigation when they know there is a crime. The DA can bring charges even if the victim doesn't want the defendant to be charged. As a matter of practice, many crimes are initiated only after a report from the victim, and some crimes may be very hard to prove without the victim's cooperation, but as a matter of the structure of the justice system, initiating a prosecution does not require a report from a victim.
As the easiest example, imagine that the police find an unknown homeless person dead with a gunshot wound. They will certainly investigate and if they identify someone they think did it, the DA will prosecute. All without a report from the victim.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 28, 2018, 12:02 PM
Yanert98quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
With Spartacus leaving, the vote will now be 11-9.
He probably went off to smoke in Pocahontas’s teepee.
I'd be happy if all the D's walked out now and the final vote was 11-0.
Perfectly fine with that!
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September 28, 2018, 12:02 PM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by oddball:
An interesting video by a body language expert on Ford's testimony yesterday. I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds line she was coached, prepped, rehearsed, etc for two weeks prior to yesterday, including mannerisms, facial expressions, etc.
I watched the Ford portion almost in it's entirely, streaming on a computer.
I'm no expert, but I am SURE she was coached and rehearsed this entire thing. EVERY TIME the female prosecutor asked her a question, her eyes would dart from side to side as if taking signals from handlers. She could not look Grassley or any other Republican in the eye, her head went down each time. Her eyes were telegraphing something too the way she would go bug eyed at times and other times cast them down.
A performance worthy of an Oscar, if you ask me!
September 28, 2018, 12:03 PM
rduckworquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
Victim needs to make a police report to start the process. Ms. Ford has not done so.
Not true.
Source?
RMD
The police can start an investigation when they know there is a crime. The DA can bring charges even if the victim doesn't want the defendant to be charged. As a matter of practice, many crimes are initiated only after a report from the victim, and some crimes may be very hard to prove without the victim's cooperation, but as a matter of the structure of the justice system, initiating a prosecution does not require a report from a victim.
As the easiest example, imagine that the police find an unknown homeless person dead with a gunshot wound. They will certainly investigate and if they identify someone they think did it, the DA will prosecute. All without a report from the victim.
Ah. Thanks for the clarification. What would be the likelihood of the police opening such a case without a complainant coming to them? Not being snarky, truly curious.
RMD
TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…”
Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
September 28, 2018, 12:07 PM
ulstermanquote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
Vietnam Dick now holds forth. STFU Dickie. You calm doesn't fool anyone.
RMD
Dickie just took his ball and went home.
September 28, 2018, 12:08 PM
Dtechquote:
Originally posted by deepocean:
Did someone on the R side about 15 minutes ago say the FBI did investigate Dr. Ford's claims and determined there was no need for further action?
Yes, the FBI was given the letter and made aware of the allegations, did what they do and returned a response of nothing further for them to do.
-Dtech
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September 28, 2018, 12:11 PM
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September 28, 2018, 12:11 PM
ulstermanDiane's from Montana had a great line. "To call this a circus isn't being fair to clowns".
September 28, 2018, 12:13 PM
TXJIMquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
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Originally posted by rduckwor:
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Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss:
Victim needs to make a police report to start the process. Ms. Ford has not done so.
Not true.
Source?
RMD
The police can start an investigation when they know there is a crime. The DA can bring charges even if the victim doesn't want the defendant to be charged. As a matter of practice, many crimes are initiated only after a report from the victim, and some crimes may be very hard to prove without the victim's cooperation, but as a matter of the structure of the justice system, initiating a prosecution does not require a report from a victim.
As the easiest example, imagine that the police find an unknown homeless person dead with a gunshot wound. They will certainly investigate and if they identify someone they think did it, the DA will prosecute. All without a report from the victim.
While technically factual I think you are missing the point, perhaps on purpose. The "victim", or someone with 1st hand knowledge of an assault, would most likely need to report the crime to the police. I don't think any beat cops are stumbling upon the scene of a past sexual assault and starting investigation as they would a homeless corpse.
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