November 08, 2024, 04:42 PM
cee_KampHypothetical question about out of state CHL
I guess the thing about Maryland that pisses me off the most is they routinely ignore the Firearms Owners Protection Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...wners_Protection_ActI would be happy to stop at the last rest area in Pennsylvania when heading south towards Maryland, and secure my unloaded CCW in a lockbox inside my motorcycle saddlebag.
Once in Virginia after traveling through Maryland, stop again at the first rest area in Virginia and get the CCW back out of the lockbox and load it back up.
Doing the above makes it legal by Federal law to traverse Maryland with a secured unloaded firearm stored in a locked container.
But even doing all of that, if they catch you, you will spend thousands of dollars to prove your innocence.
Sadly, Maryland isn't the only state routinely ignoring the FOPA. New York and New Jersey and others do the same bullshit.
Many years ago when I traveled extensively for out of State USPSA competitions, I acquired a non resident Massachusetts License to Carry.
For non residents, it is issued by the MA State Police. If you met the requirements, they issued it to you.
It was easier for a non resident to do that compared to a MA resident who HAD to secure written approval from a local MA Police Chief.
If I recall, it was $90 for three years.
More recently, it was changed to $100+ for one year. I did not renew my MA LTC.
Massachusetts is now on the same list for me as Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island.
I really don't mind, I will spend my motorcycle touring funds where I am appreciated.
November 08, 2024, 09:15 PM
92fstechquote:
Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Good post 92fs. can you provide a list of those 29 states. Thanks
https://www.usconcealedcarry.c...licies/unrestricted/November 08, 2024, 09:46 PM
wrightdquote:
Originally posted by cee_Kamp:
I guess the thing about Maryland that pisses me off the most is they routinely ignore the Firearms Owners Protection Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...wners_Protection_ActI would be happy to stop at the last rest area in Pennsylvania when heading south towards Maryland, and secure my unloaded CCW in a lockbox inside my motorcycle saddlebag.
Once in Virginia after traveling through Maryland, stop again at the first rest area in Virginia and get the CCW back out of the lockbox and load it back up.
Doing the above makes it legal by Federal law to traverse Maryland with a secured unloaded firearm stored in a locked container.
But even doing all of that, if they catch you, you will spend thousands of dollars to prove your innocence.
Sadly, Maryland isn't the only state routinely ignoring the FOPA. New York and New Jersey and others do the same bullshit.
Many years ago when I traveled extensively for out of State USPSA competitions, I acquired a non resident Massachusetts License to Carry.
For non residents, it is issued by the MA State Police. If you met the requirements, they issued it to you.
It was easier for a non resident to do that compared to a MA resident who HAD to secure written approval from a local MA Police Chief.
If I recall, it was $90 for three years.
More recently, it was changed to $100+ for one year. I did not renew my MA LTC.
Massachusetts is now on the same list for me as Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island.
I really don't mind, I will spend my motorcycle touring funds where I am appreciated.
I wouldn't trust any state with FOPA, particularly the bad ones, except maybe states like Texas and the like, where cc is common and the general culture is pro gun. It's amazing how states can ignore Federal Law without hesitation or second thought, something I don't understand to this day, except that the states are acting as criminals, more of less, if that's not an oversimplification.
November 09, 2024, 01:12 PM
FredwardThe LE agency would stand serious liability in this situation. Also, I firmly believe in "don't ask, do't tell." But it's irrelevant to me, I have a LEOSA permit. I still won't cross the border into Illinois though.
November 27, 2024, 08:56 PM
wrightdGood point about don't ask don't tell. I was advised the same by a family friend who is a retired prosecutor.