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Do you guys pay 'home security alarm' permit fees for your home security system?

I have over the years but directly to the local LE department. There seems to be a new third party administrator for these fees; seems to be used somewhat nationwide.

But I can't find any information on this company (FAMS). I'm hesitant to provide personal info and credit card to them despite seemingly being used to multiple PD nationwide.




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In Nashville we pay $10 a year directly to Metro Nashville alarm permit department & they send a dated sticker to put in a visable place at the home entrance. Personal checks are good to avoid the card fee.


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Yea, to date I've been paying directly to the local PD. I'm good w/ that.

I'm not entirely sure about this new 3rd party handling payments and such. The good thing is that this seems to be not unique to my local PD.




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I'll admit I don't like subscription fees, but this "alarm fee" notion is new to me. So, what happens if you have a home security system, and it generates an alarm, and you haven't paid the fee? Do the cops decline to respond and/or investigate? How does this reconcile with their sworn duty? Or am I misunderstanding to whom the revenue accrues? Perhaps it is that the alarm is routed to a private security entity, and the fee is for them to forward this notice to LE for a response, perhaps with some "added value" such as verifying and validating the alarm condition? I can certainly understand why LE might not want to receive alarms directly due to the prevalence of false alarms, but the whole scenario seems awkward and unlikely to deter any but the most timid of thieves.

There is another aspect to this that gives me pause. In the private security firm scenario, what is their liability should a delay in LE response (perhaps due to a failure to pay the fee) result in harm or loss to the customer? Obviously, this would be disclaimed in the monitoring contract, but it also means that they have little incentive to implement and staff a capable response infrastructure. Sure sounds like a scam to me!
 
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Lucky we don't have to do that here, there are some counties and cities that do require it,

Looks like they are a 3rd party service provider that sells registration services to Law Enforcement agencies where there is a requirement to register alarms.

I looked at FAMS it's not a company but a program sold by PM AM out of Dallas, False Alarm Management System.

PM AM FAMS is the premier municipal alarm ordinance management solution in the marketplace. Designed as an end-to-end solution and used nationwide, PM AM FAMS assumes responsibility for the entire program, with the goals to increase compliance, reduce false alarms, and deploy an effective cost recovery plan for your city. PM AM understands the exorbitant cost of false alarms for cities of all sizes and has deployed PM AM FAMS for over a decade, with unparalleled success. This comes from a deep understanding of alarm ordinances and program requirements, an ever-improving software solution rooted in the latest technologies (Business Intelligence, Robotic Process Automation), and a professional staff that represents your city by providing an industry-leading white-glove experience. PM AM FAMS requires no startup costs or service fees. Taken together, PM AM FAMS is the obvious choice, a true return on no investment.

https://www.pmam.com/Fams.html

https://www.linkedin.com/company/pmam/
 
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Thanks. I’ll check the links.




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I paid $15 ten years ago and they haven't asked for anything since.


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You can really be effective in "reducing false alarms" if you don't re-transmit any alarms at all. They are charging these fees to isolate the Police from security-concerned citizens.
 
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Every year. Local PD but the payment people are someone they hire.



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Do you guys pay 'home security alarm' permit fees for your home security system?

10 bucks a year.


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I'll admit I don't like subscription fees, but this "alarm fee" notion is new to me. So, what happens if you have a home security system, and it generates an alarm, and you haven't paid the fee? Do the cops decline to respond and/or investigate? How does this reconcile with their sworn duty? Or am I misunderstanding to whom the revenue accrues? Perhaps it is that the alarm is routed to a private security entity, and the fee is for them to forward this notice to LE for a response, perhaps with some "added value" such as verifying and validating the alarm condition? I can certainly understand why LE might not want to receive alarms directly due to the prevalence of false alarms, but the whole scenario seems awkward and unlikely to deter any but the most timid of thieves.

There is another aspect to this that gives me pause. In the private security firm scenario, what is their liability should a delay in LE response (perhaps due to a failure to pay the fee) result in harm or loss to the customer? Obviously, this would be disclaimed in the monitoring contract, but it also means that they have little incentive to implement and staff a capable response infrastructure. Sure sounds like a scam to me!


The previous city I lived had a nominal fee for alarm permits. The permit was never cross referenced before PD dispatched. However if you did not have a valid permit you would be fined afterwards.


 
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$27.99 for Simplisafe. Not perfect but does what I need.


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