Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply |
Lawyers, Guns and Money |
June 25, 2017 Politicians in Illinois continue to bicker as state careens toward fiscal disaster By Rick Moran Illinois GOP Governor Bruce Rauner called the legislature back into special session this week, hoping to get a deal with the Democrats to avoid the prospect of another year without a state budget. The fiscal year ends on June 30, and without a budget agreement for the third straight year, the state faces a fiscal calamity as bond rating agencies have indicated they will lower Illinois' bond rating - already the lowest of any state in the nation - to junk status. Court orders forcing the state to spend money on schools and some social services, as well as paying state employees and making pension contributions, will drain the treasury dry of funds, leaving the prospect of tens of thousands of layoffs and hundreds of thousands of the poor and indigent without critical services. And yet...the two sides can't even agree on when they should meet. Chicago Tribune: Such last-minute attempts to cut a deal are normally marked by hours of closed-door meetings between the governor and legislative leaders, but those talks have been nonexistent. In their place remains the political sparring that largely has immobilized state government and put Illinois on path to enter the third straight year without a full budget come July 1. The dysfunction was on full display last week, as the sides couldn't even agree on who should be talking and when. The situation recalled December, when Rauner pulled the plug on bipartisan negotiations after he and Democratic House Speaker Michael Madigancouldn't agree on how to proceed. Since then, the pressures have only mounted. To some extent, what's unfolding at the Capitol is following the same script as in years past. The governor and legislative leaders spend a few days both calling for compromise and accusing the other side of not being interested in negotiating one. Political messages are sent, daily news cycles tended to and pressure has to build before they sit down and reach a deal, even a temporary one. Last year, for example, they got a stopgap budget done on June 30. The stakes are higher this time, however. If an agreement isn't reached in the next week, ratings agencies are poised to cut the state's credit to junk status, road projects may be suspended and Illinois may be dropped from the multi-state Powerball and Mega Millions lottery games. Come August, the state may no longer be able to afford to pay employee salaries, send money to school districts or make required pension contributions. Also at risk is accreditation for some state universities after the Higher Learning Commission issued a letter warning that a continued lack of funding "places the higher education system of Illinois at considerable risk and is injurious to the very students the system purports to serve." Instead of action, those consequences spurred finger pointing, as some lawmakers skipped town and other sat through a House hearing on education Saturday with plans for a similar hearing on pension reform Sunday. Rauner put the blame on Democrats, declaring the majority party is operating in "bad faith." Democrats, meanwhile, said it's Rauner who's playing games, contending that summoning lawmakers back to Springfield was a stunt designed to "deflect from his efforts to really not work on reaching an agreement." This is not a game of chicken. It's a dual game of Russian Roulette with both sides holding guns with a full mag. And it isn't just universities that will be at risk come August unlress a budget deal is reached. Illinois Comptroller Susana Mendoza is sounding the alarm with little effect: [Comptroller Susana Mendoza] said Friday that in a “best-case scenario,” the state will fall $185 million short of what it needs to meet payments required by various court orders, consent decrees and state laws that have been responsible for the state to continue paying some bills in the absence of a full state budget [in August]. “We will no longer be able to fully comply with all of the court orders that determine payments in our core priority sectors,” Mendoza said. “This has never happened before.” […] “In August, I will have zero flexibility,” Mendoza said. “I guarantee you nursing homes will close. I won’t be able to help them. I won’t even have enough money to make the core priorities that are mandated by the courts.” Courts have ordered continued payments for some human services programs and for the state employee payroll. State law requires payments to pension systems and debt service. The state has also managed to keep current with state aid payments to schools, although reimbursements for things like transportation costs have fallen behind. However, Mendoza said that in August, if nothing is done to resolve the budget stalemate, even school aid payments could be in jeopardy, not to mention what might happen if the state can’t make payments decreed by the courts. Will politicians really allow the situation to get that bad? Don't doubt it for a minute. In a couple of weeks, the calls will begin on both sides of the aisle for a federal bailout of the state. The president and Republicans should resist such calls. If a state cannot govern itself, it deserves whatever consequences befall it. The budget crisis is not a force of nature. It is a man made problem that can be fixed by people if they are willing to abandon the thoughts of political advantage and work to solve the crisis. The entrenched interests in the state won't suffer any of the consequences mentioned above so they are perfectly willing to hold the politician's feet to the fire and demand they not give an inch. The clock is ticking. http://www.americanthinker.com...fiscal_disaster.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
|
delicately calloused |
Sometimes the best way to protect the value of property is to let the structure built on it collapse and then clean up the site. Of course building and equally unsound structure in its place will not be helpful. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
|
Member |
And yet, they took the time yesterday to sign a bill that was pitched as anti-crime, increasing sentences for crimes committed with firearms, but according to the NRA will actually put additional restrictions on gun shops and cause more of them to close. I haven't heard from the NRA recently. I guess they've given up on Illinois, too. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
|
Member |
I'm not worried about Illinois. I am worried about the Fed (and central bankers around the globe) playing around with that money printing thing... might not end well. Buckle up (just in case). No matter how bad it is, it could always be worse... unless you're already on fire. - Anon | |||
|
Member |
NOTHING will change here until we get rid of the Democratic leadership at a minimum. That would be the first step. I doubt most of you that live elsewhere realize how bad, how corrupt it is here because you only hear or see what the msm tells you. When you live here you see the shenanigans up close. It's much worse than you know. | |||
|
Like a party in your pants |
This kind of artical makes me sick! The MSM in Chicago has been in bed with the politicians for decades. NEVER do you see the MSM here go after REAL corruption. NEVER do they go after who ever is Mayor. They laugh with forced laughter every time a Mayor tells a bad joke, like low subordinates listening to there boss. Political crime everywhere but they look everywhere else for stories. They all know who is a crook. They know who has wasted away the finances of this state, In many cases its the Fathers of those in power now, they do nothing to call them out. Now all they can come up with is a BIG JOKE story. They are the joke as are the people that watch ,listen, and read them! | |||
|
Member |
I wonder what a default of Illinois will do to the bond markets? The straw that breaks the camel's back comes to mind. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
|
Member |
No budget, no lotteries, people fleeing IL by the tens of thousands every year, and what comes in today's mail? Voter registration renewal cards. I'd like to return mine with a picture of Curly Joe on it! ...but we're too broke to move right now, so I'm stuck here. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
|
Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Illinois farm country is beautiful. It's really a shame that selfish politicians in Chicagoland can ruin a state so rich in natural resources and full of great people. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
|
Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Is the Obama Expressway an expressway to hell? That was rhetorical... 'Amazing Progress' Illinois Style: Welcome To The Obama Expressway! Progress Illinois Style Illinois has been without a budget for two years and its bonds, already the lowest in the nation, face a downgrade to junk. On June 15, Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner called a special 10-Day legislative session to finalize a budget. We are now in the eighth day of the special session. The Special Sessions Cost Illinois Taxpayers $50,000 a Day. The special sessions have lasted from 10 to 23 minutes at the longest. Progress was announced yesterday: My sources tell me that by an 84-0 vote, part of I-55 will be renamed the Obama Expressway. Progress Extended Today, the Wall Street Journal reports Illinois Governor to Extend Session if Lawmakers Miss June 30 Budget Deadline. On Tuesday Mr. Madigan unveiled a $36 billion budget proposal but didn’t spell out how much taxes would have to increase to get the state’s fiscal house in order. If a budget isn’t passed by Friday, credit-rating firms have warned they will downgrade the state’s rating to junk. Rauner Already Caved In An even more amazing part of this reconciliation process is that Rauner has already caved in. On June 21, I commented Governor Rauner Screws Illinois. In exchange for virtually nothing, the Governor agreed to a massive tax hike. Proposed Deal Four-year tax hike to 4.95%, up from 3.75% Expansion of sales taxes New taxes on cable and satellite TV Four-year property tax freeze No right-to-work reform No collective bargaining reform No pension reform No workers’ compensation reform No spending cuts No term limits No gerrymandering reform The alleged property tax freeze is only 4 years and it excludes Chicago, home rule districts, cities in trouble, etc. One can drive a truck trough the loopholes. Yet, that was not enough for Madigan or the special session would not still be in session. Rule of Nothing This brings us to the Rule of Nothing proposed on June 22. In any given political situation, the best outcome one can reasonably expect generally happens when politicians do nothing. Implied corollary#1: When politicians attempt to fix any problem, they are highly likely to make matters worse. Corollary #2: Politicians almost never do nothing. It’s why we have a messed up healthcare system, education system, public pension system, etc.. For whatever perverse reason, Rauner is willing to break every promise he has ever made on budgets, on taxes, on reforms. Not only did Rauner cave in on everything he has stood for, by extending the special session he has shown willingness to toss more taxpayer red meat to Madigan and his progressives who have already bankrupted the state. Hope Against Hope Our only hope at this point is that Madigan asks for so much that Rauner regains his sanity. Given that Powerball, Mega Millions to Halt Illinois Lottery Due to State’s Inability to Pay Winners on June 30, I rate the odds of sanity returning at under 10%. On the off chance that sanity prevails, I once again outline what Illinois needs. Five Desperately Needed Reforms Municipal bankruptcy legislation Pension reform Right-to-Work legislation End of prevailing wage laws Workers’ compensation reform Bankruptcy, the ONLY Solution Number one on my list of Illinois reforms is bankruptcy legislation. It is the only hope for numerous Illinois cities strapped with impossible-to-pay pension liabilities. As part of any budget package, Rauner must demand municipal bankruptcy legislation. Bankruptcy is the only solution for Illinois that works. The system is simply too broke to fix. Pension Puzzle Illinois pension plans are going bust. Why is that? Did Illinois not tax enough? For sure, Illinois did not fund the plans, but to fund them, the state would have had to raise taxes even more. For discussion, please see Illinois Too Broke to Fix: Chicago Police Pension Fund Broke by 2021 at the Latest. Supporting Evidence of Socialist Tax Hike Madness (links in original): March 25, 2017: Cook County Illinois Suffers Largest Population Drop In Entire US July 14, 2016: Welcome to Illinois (Where Every 5 Minutes Someone Moves Out) April 4, 2017: Illinois Revenue Freefall: Fiscal Year-to-Date -8.1% and Worsening February 7, 2013: Platitudes, Promises, and the Failed Pro-Union Policies of Illinois Governor Pat Quinn June 14, 2017: Unable to Pay Bills, Illinois Sends “Dear Contractor” Letter Telling Firms to Halt Road Work on July 1 May 18, 2016: Illinois State Workers, Highest Paid in Nation, Demand 11.5 to 29% Hikes August 31, 2011: Illinois Loses Most Jobs in Nation Following Tax Hikes. April 13, 2011: 35% of Illinois State Employees are on Workers’ Comp October 28, 2015: Chicago’s Sheep Dogs Approve Mayor’s Tax on Sheep; Quote of the Day “It’s Not a Piece of Art” February 13, 2016: “Bond Girl” Blasts Chicago Public School Bonds, Says “CPS Genuinely Insolvent” March 25, 2016: US Population Growth +0.79%, Illinois -0.17%, Illinois Second Worst to Coal Plagued West Virginia January 20, 2016: “B” Word Hits Chicago: Illinois Governor Proposes Bankruptcy for Chicago Public School System January 14, 2016: Illinois Too Big a Risk: GE Moves Corporate Headquarters to Boston, Bypassing Chicago Citing Litany of Issues June 23, 2017: Illinois Too Broke to Fix: Chicago Police Pension Fund Broke by 2021 at the Latest Illinois is F*d up beyond repair and caving into demands from Madigan is exactly the wrong thing to do. Illinois truly deserves Junk status, and tax hikes will not solve the problem. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...ome-obama-expressway "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
|
I believe in the principle of Due Process |
This reads like the Zimbawe thread! Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
|
Member |
Illinois Senate top GOP quits, effective Saturday, budget or no: http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20170629-story.html -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
|
Member |
I know a general contractor out of northern Illinois and his company has been doing a bunch of work on new and expansion of public schools....heard yesterday that the State of Illinois owes his company almost 7 figures and can't pay. The ripple effect of this states mismanagement and outright theft of funds is going to trickle down to a bunch of innocent people that worked hard all their life. | |||
|
Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Ya... you're right... but the contractors shouldn't extend credit. I know... it's how it's always been done. Do the work and then get paid, but people should know better with the State of Illinois. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
|
His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
| |||
|
Member |
Illinois needs to fail. There's no money to bail them out with. And who else should shoulder their burden but themselves for the mess they made. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
|
Member |
_____________________________________________ I may be a bad person, but at least I use my turn signal. | |||
|
Member |
Last Mega Millions for Illinois tonight, didn't even get one number. No redneck retirement for me! -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
|
Member |
Yet, the idiots here will continue to vote for any assbag with a "D" behind their name when they walk into the booth. The Democrats are using this as political leverage against the Republicans, and ARE PROUD OF IT! The only ones getting screwed are the people that live here. I got the Powereball ticket the other night. The thing that sucks is, IF I do win, the State is so fucking broke, they cant pay out. So Im still stuck here. EVERY single one of these fuckers needs to be put up against the wall and shot. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
|
Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Apparently there is no budget. Has the repo man showed up to start towing away the Picasso sculpture? Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
|
Powered by Social Strata | Page 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... 12 |
Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |