So far, I’ve seen no report of adult cases. Very odd.

“A child has died of suspected hepatitis in the US, with six states now investigating cases of the mystery illness sweeping the world.

Wisconsin's Department of Health Services announced four youngsters have been struck down with unusual liver damage. One died and another needed a transplant, officials said.

If the death is confirmed to be down to the unusual type of hepatitis, it would be the first confirmed in the US and second in the world.
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Nearly 200 children have been sickened by the condition across the world in up to 14 countries. At least 18 have needed liver transplants. 
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Medics have been left puzzled by what is behind the spate of cases — with the usual hepatitis A, B, C, D and E viruses excluded from laboratory test results.

Health chiefs believe the illness may be triggered by an adenovirus, which usually causes common colds…”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/10762659

The real question is when exactly did this phenomenon start? What is the common thread between the majority of these children? I wonder if the “vaccines” being foisted on the people of the world are involved either directly or indirectly. Fucking around with RNA/DNA could be having hitherto unforeseen consequences such as virus gene mutation or spike protein induced damage.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
The real question is when exactly did this phenomenon start? What is the common thread between the majority of these children? I wonder if the “vaccines” being foisted on the people of the world are involved either directly or indirectly. Fucking around with RNA/DNA could be having hitherto unforeseen consequences such as virus gene mutation or spike protein induced damage.

We will never get the answer to that question because no one in authority will ask it. Anyone that does will be fired, censored, medical license revoked....

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
The real question is when exactly did this phenomenon start? What is the common thread between the majority of these children? <snip>

No, the real question is: Does the mystery hepatitis affect adults?

Current causality is expected to be a virus. It can only be found upon autopsy of the liver. Seems to be in Alabama mostly here in the US.


Can’t say I’m really shocked that some of y’all want to think it’s the vaccine…

Do you know there are actual diseases beyond Covid?

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Do you know there are actual diseases beyond Covid?

I suppose they do, but given that we have been kept in the dark and fed shit regarding the mRNA vaccines which don't actually seem to prevent COVID infection, it is a legitimate question.

RMD

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Do you know there are actual diseases beyond Covid?

It’s Wuhan 2.

Not hepatitis, but my wife's blood glucose and A1c went from low normal in August 21 when she had a pre-op check up before surgery to 399 and 12.9 when she went back for follow-up in December. She was diagnosed as T2 Diabetic after having no pre-indications at all.

What changed? She had her Moderna booster in October 21.

No one appears able to explain it.

Yeah, it’s not like people ever get sick idiopathically.

Well, it is certainly too late to find out where we would be had none of the "vaccines" ever been pushed upon humankind.

So, the world may never know to the extent the harm created, but this virus did exactly as I suspected it would, given how such viruses adapt to the greater number of hosts, and weaken, and humanity becomes adapted to dealing with them.

The virus is like the river flowing to the sea. It is gonna get there, pretty much the same as all water will.

All of our efforts to stop that, often create a greater problem when we do not study over time, the ground that water will cover, before launching into dam building and water diverting.

We should have treated the sick, isolated the vulnerable, and let people choose for themselves, what lengths they would go to avoid.

I still believe the "vaccine program(s)" are and will be one of the worst decisions in "health care", ever forced upon everyone.

@SIGnified
"idiopathic" only means the diagnoses is not conclusive of a cause, not that it does not have a co-relation to a specific cause.

Therefor, the vaccine may well be the absolute and only cause, but if it cannot be determined, then calling it "idiopathic hepatitis" would be correct, but does not exonerate Mr. Vaccine.

I had "idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP)", and it reared up after about 10 days after I came down with shingles. The cause was never determined, but several things could have been the cause. Even with the "suspicions", none of that would have an affect nor result in different treatment. And I spent time in libraries during the year I dealt with it, trying to see if I could find anything to help. (with the oncologist and blood specialist blessings, as they said I had time they did not have to dig, and just maybe I might find a nut.)
It resolved after almost a year, and then took another year to get to a plateau of platelet count that I continue to have up to now. Lower than "normal", but not a life concern.

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Yeah, it’s not like people ever get sick idiopathically.

Talk sense for once. . You think we didn't explore all the usual suspects?

Her physicians, including her consulting endocrinologist are as mystified as we are. It was like something turned her pancreas off, almost overnight.

If you read the literature, you will find several cases where people recovering from CoVID 19 have, without warning, developed T1 & T2 diabetes without any prior history of elevated BG or A1c markers at all.

So your doctor’s attribute your wife’s Type2 diabetes diagnosis to SARS covid 19 vaccine injection?

If not, how did you arrive at the conclusions that you do? Wildly throwing darts at something you don’t understand, in hope of what?

I’m sorry about your wife’s condition/disease. I’m quite familiar with it.

But, who’s not making sense here?

Surely folks on this thread that are suggesting that the new juvenile-threatening hepatitis is related to SARS-CoV-2 are saying so in jest. At least I hope it’s in jest.

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If not, how did you arrive at the conclusions that you do? Wildly throwing darts at something you don’t understand, in hope of what?

Did you see anywhere in my post where I concluded that the vaccine was the cause of my wife's sudden diabetes? I simply, using 'Occam's Razor' pointed out that it occurred after her third shot of the Moderna vaccine and that her doctors could find no underlying cause and were as surprised as we were. I also pointed out that there had been reported cases of people who had recovered from the disease also suddenly developing diabetes.

Since these vaccines were rushed into production and without the normal years of testing, it is at least possible that they have as yet unknown consequences, including the sudden onset of myocarditis in young, otherwise healthy adults, and possibly, a connection to diabetes and hepatitis in people with no other risk factors.

That is all.

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Originally posted by Pyker:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Yeah, it’s not like people ever get sick idiopathically.

Talk sense for once. . You think we didn't explore all the usual suspects?

Her physicians, including her consulting endocrinologist are as mystified as we are. It was like something turned her pancreas off, almost overnight.

If you read the literature, you will find several cases where people recovering from CoVID 19 have, without warning, developed T1 & T2 diabetes without any prior history of elevated BG or A1c markers at all.

My brother developed type II diabetes out of nowhere around 25 years ago with no warnings whatsoever.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
Surely folks on this thread that are suggesting that the new juvenile-threatening hepatitis is related to SARS-CoV-2 are saying so in jest. At least I hope it’s in jest.

Wasn't there an article posted in the Covid thread a month or two ago about the vaccine's mRNA getting into the liver and making the virus spike protein there, resulting in an auto-immune type of hepatitis?
That's reason right there to think of the vaccine as being involved.

^^^^ Page 1056.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum.../m/9320007564/p/1056

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Not hepatitis, but my wife's blood glucose and A1c went from low normal in August 21 when she had a pre-op check up before surgery to 399 and 12.9 when she went back for follow-up in December. She was diagnosed as T2 Diabetic after having no pre-indications at all.

What changed? She had her Moderna booster in October 21.

No one appears able to explain it.

Same thing happened to me. 37 years old, I live a pretty healthy lifestyle, no risk factors, no family history, have always had healthy glucose levels. Got Pfizer 1 and 2 in March and April of 2021, started getting symptoms over the summer and finally went to the doctor in October and my fasting glucose was 393 and A1C was off the chart at > 15.5. Ended up being diagnosed type 1 diabetic and now I'm on insulin. Nobody can give me any answers, but the only thing I did different was get those damn shots (I didn't get COVID until December, which was after I got the shots...and also after I got the diabetes diagnosis). I can't prove the shots caused it, but I can't think of any other reason.

I've since found a few articles linking COVID (the disease...I don't think anybody is willing to point fingers at the vaccine at this point, but the vaccine is supposed to trigger an immune response to the virus, and Type 1 Diabetes is autoimmune, so in my mind I could see this as a potential outcome). Here's one example https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28...d-studies/index.html ) and Diabetes, and I'm starting to hear of other people like your wife who have experienced sudden unexplained onset. I'm planning to take a few articles to my next endo appointment and ask some questions.

Just heard on Fox that the first child fatality in the US from this 'mystery' hepatitis has been reported in Wisconsin

Link

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
^^^^ Page 1056.

Good find:

Reverse transcription is when DNA is made from RNA, whereas the normal transcription process involves a portion of the DNA serving as a template to make an mRNA molecule inside the nucleus.

“In this study we present evidence that COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2 is able to enter the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro,” the researchers wrote in the study, published in Current Issues of Molecular Biology. “BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA as fast as 6 [hours] after BNT162b2 exposure.”

BNT162b2 is another name for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that is marketed under the brand name Comirnaty.

The whole process occurred rapidly within six hours. The vaccine’s mRNA converting into DNA and being found inside the cell’s nucleus is something that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said would not happen.

“The genetic material delivered by mRNA vaccines never enters the nucleus of your cells,” the CDC said on its web page titled “Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines.”

This is the first time that researchers have shown in vitro or inside a petri dish how an mRNA vaccine is converted into DNA on a human liver cell line, and is what health experts and fact-checkers said for over a year couldn’t occur.

The CDC says that the “COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way,” claiming that all of the ingredients in both mRNA and viral vector COVID-19 vaccines (administered in the United States) are discarded from the body once antibodies are produced. These vaccines deliver genetic material that instructs cells to begin making spike proteins found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2 that causes COVID-19 to produce an immune response.

Pfizer didn’t comment on the findings of the Swedish study and said only that its mRNA vaccine does not alter the human genome.

“Our COVID-19 vaccine does not alter the DNA sequence of a human cell,” a Pfizer spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email. “It only presents the body with the instructions to build immunity.”

More than 215 million or 64.9 percent of Americans are fully vaccinated as of Feb. 28, with 94 million having received a booster dose.

The Swedish study also found spike proteins expressed on the surface of the liver cells that researchers say may be targeted by the immune system and possibly cause autoimmune hepatitis, as “there [have] been case reports on individuals who developed autoimmune hepatitis after BNT162b2 vaccination.”

The authors of the first reported case of a healthy 35-year-old female who developed autoimmune hepatitis a week after her first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine said that there is a possibility that “spike-directed antibodies induced by vaccination may also trigger autoimmune conditions in predisposed individuals” as it has been shown that “severe cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection are characterized by an autoinflammatory dysregulation that contributes to tissue damage,” which the virus’s spike protein appears to be responsible for.

Spike proteins may circulate in the body after an infection or injection with a COVID-19 vaccine. It was assumed that the vaccine’s spike protein would remain mostly at the injection site and last up to several weeks like other proteins produced in the body. But studies are showing that is not the case.