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Water supply emergency in Jackson, MS
August 30, 2022, 04:12 PM
GeorgeairWater supply emergency in Jackson, MS
Yes, the largest city and capitol of state, under EPA scrutiny for years now, finally fails. The litany of issues and stupidity from their mayor is incredible, but when you see these stories nationally now, and quotes from the mayor about how this was caused by the flooding or lack of effort at state or federal level, don't believe a single word of it.
Link to recent national article quote:
JACKSON, Miss. — The state's capital city was without a reliable water supply Monday after rain and flooding pushed the Pearl River to dangerous levels, officials said.
Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba declared a water system emergency Monday evening because of complications from the Pearl River flooding. He said issues at the O.B. Curtis Water Plant resulted in low or no water pressure for many residents.
"The water shortage is likely to last the next couple of days," the city said in a statement.
Jackson, the state’s capital and largest city, had water problems even before the rain that prompted fears of floods from the Pearl River.
The Environmental Protection Agency issued a lengthy report in 2020, outlining major shortfalls of Jackson's water system which included failure to replace lead pipes, faulty monitoring equipment and inadequate staffing.
The community's lack of reliable water has trickled down to even the most basic services such as drinking fountains at Whitten Middle School.
"Out of order" signs have been posted on those fountains as long as anyone can remember, teacher George Stewart told NBC's "Nightly News with Lester Holt."
"I can't remember, I can't honestly remember" the last time fountains worked, Stewart said.
Gov. Tate Reeves said at a news conference Monday night that the city's water system was unable to produce enough water.
“Until it is fixed, it means we do not have reliable running water at scale,” Reeves said. “It means the city cannot produce enough water to fight fires, to reliably flush toilets and to meet other critical needs.”
Flooding in Jackson, a city of around 153,000, was less severe than had been feared after the state got record rainfall, officials said.
The Pearl River was forecast to remain at a little over 35 feet but begin a slow decrease Monday night, the National Weather Service said.
“The good news is, is that the water levels came in lower than projected,” Lumumba said at a briefing earlier Monday, adding that at the time it was believed that water had entered only one home.
But river water coming into what he said was an already "very fragile water treatment facility" meant it needed to be treated differently and resulted in a reduction in water going out into the system, he said.
"This is a citywide challenge that they are working to recover from," Lumumba said.
Reeves said there would be state emergency declarations in addition to the city's.
The Mississippi Emergency Management Agency would distribute water to residents, and the state would also be in charge of an effort to start emergency repairs and maintenance to get the water flowing again, Reeves said.
State Health Officer Daniel Edney said at a news conference: "The water is not safe to drink. I’d even say it’s not safe to brush your teeth with — because we are not seeing adequate chlorination and an inability to consistently disinfect the water."
Residents should fully boil water for at least three minutes, he said.
Reeves said that the city’s main water treatment facility had been “operating with zero redundancies,” or backup systems, and that its main pumps had recently been damaged.
Jackson Public Schools said that all classes would shift to virtual learning and that there would be no in-person instruction starting Tuesday because of the water shortage.
This water shortage will have a severe impact on students who do no respond well to online learning, teachers said.
"We have many students, considered some of our most vulnerable students, who virtual learning does not help them at all," said Stewart, president of the Jackson Association of Educators.
Oh - here's a picture of the treatment facility at peak of flooding yesterday midday. Totally flooded. With air.
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August 30, 2022, 04:56 PM
wxdaveMy in-laws live in Madison, but work in the city. We frequently have a laugh at ol' "Chokwe" and his antics.
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August 30, 2022, 05:52 PM
ZSMICHAELThe place should be in Africa. Terrible roads, incredible gang violence, failing infrastructure and terrible governance. It is beyond me why anyone would live there. The only desirable area is Madison and it leaves a lot to be desired with their petty little politics. Their water problem is the least of their difficulties. Did I mention corrupt politics?
August 30, 2022, 09:12 PM
rduckworI lived there for 1973 - 77. It was a decent town at that point in time. Democrats have run it into the ground as they are wont to do.
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August 31, 2022, 06:59 AM
xd45manIt's my understanding that Jackson received over 40 million dollars as part of the Rescue America redistribution of wealth. I also understand that the democrats did what democrats do and didn't spend any of it to rescue Jackson.
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August 31, 2022, 10:23 AM
cheesegritsI saw a PBS "news report" on this yesterday. The problem has been decades in the making. Naturally PBS got around to blaming the water problem on white flight and the corresponding loss of dollars. The mayor has said that it will take
billions of dollars to fix the water problem.
PBS reportAugust 31, 2022, 10:49 AM
EdmondI drive through Jackson on my drive between El Paso and Tampa. I'm typically 1/4 or below on gas but I push further as to not stop there for any reason. Daytime might be fine. Stopped there at night and decided I didn't need gas that bad.
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August 31, 2022, 10:50 AM
triggertreatFlint Mi 2.0
I'm alright it's the rest of the world that's all screwed up! August 31, 2022, 10:53 AM
GeorgeairIt will be interesting to see if any decent reporter gets a sniff of what a mess Jackson really is and goes there to dig around.
In no particular order, in addition to the water issues, they will find failed roads, crime that is as out of hand as the PNW has been, trash service failures and a city council/mayor who are so out of sync they declined to approve contract on new trash service linked to the mayor and the mayor "vetoed" their lack of approval and went ahead with that contractor anyway. That one is still in the courts burning money.
Oh - and the national reporting is centered on one water pumping station where the two main pumps had failed and the under-capacity backups then went down Monday. There's a second station as well that has been offline for a year+ now. Oopsie.
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August 31, 2022, 11:14 AM
ZSMICHAEL^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I doubt it. What is there to report that has not already been discussed. Who knows maybe a special on shitholes in the South. What other city has a mayor with the same last name as an African ruler?
August 31, 2022, 11:28 AM
JupiterWe pass through Jackson fairly often on our way to Baton Rouge. We learned to NEVER STOP at a fast food restaurant in Jackson. The dysfunction is mind blowing.
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August 31, 2022, 11:35 AM
wxdavequote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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What other city has a mayor with the same last name as an African ruler?
If you do a little searching, you will find that his father of the same name (a former Jackson mayor himself) made that name up and assumed it in 1969. Born in Detroit (shocker) as Edwin Finley Taliaferro. He was the second vice president (whatever that is) of the "Republic of New Afrika".
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August 31, 2022, 12:07 PM
MikeinNCJackson is the midway point when I go back to NC to visit my parents. I stay in the Hilton Garden in Pearl. Never had an issue. Or is it that I have priced myself out of the shittier part of town?
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rduckworquote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Jackson is the midway point when I go back to NC to visit my parents. I stay in the Hilton Garden in Pearl. Never had an issue. Or is it that I have priced myself out of the shittier part of town?
Pearl, Brandon, Madison, most of the suburbs are probably O.K. The residents rarely leave their democratic paradise to fuck with the suburban residents. The are adverse to getting shot.
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August 31, 2022, 12:41 PM
ZSMICHAELThe urban creep is moving North. Stopped to get gas at the usual place. Worse by the year. Reminded me of the South side of Chicago.
Several years ago I attended a conference in Jackson. The view from the downtown area was widespread urban blight. All hours of the day there were the homeless pushing their shopping carts. Jackson is a third world country. I would move if I lived in Madison. It is just a matter of time that the thugs move into those areas.
August 31, 2022, 12:49 PM
ZSMICHAELSurprise Surprise as Gomer would say. The DMV is closed along with many state offices. Lines too long at the Porta Potties.
August 31, 2022, 05:13 PM
slabsides45Jackson is like most bigger cities, controlled by the libs and generally poorly organized.
That said, I will still selectively stop at certain spots in Jackson, like Lou's and a few others. Worth taking the chance, and generally pretty safe if you know the specific spot you're stopping. Madison, for example, is fine. Other areas you couldn't get me to stop there for any amount of money.
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