It’s prestressed concrete, so no holes in the floor, for sure, and possibly no holes in the walls.

(I think it was nothing over 5/8”)

It has 24/7 security, though not like my current building. (I don’t think the new one allows delivery people inside, but it’s not as locked down as my current one.)

I don’t plan on keeping much - maybe 2 ARs, 2 full size pistols, 2 compact ones, and maybe a suppressed 22 for long distance plinking.

Also, I’d like to lock up my laptop, and my medications.

Like all high rise dwellings, space is at a premium.

https://www.snapsafe.com/modular-safes/titan

It arrives in pieces and you put it together yourself. This makes it easier and less obvious then moving a full sized safe into a residence. This one seems like a reasonable size for a smaller place while retaining good security.

Liberty Centurion or ProVault 12-Gun (made by Liberty.) Both about $800 retail.

Is this a rental condo?

If not, you can pour a raised concrete pad with rebar and bolt to that.

Don't bother with the various sheet metal "security cabinets". While they're appropriately sized for what you're wanting to store, they offer shit protection, and since you're not going to be able to bolt them to the floor/wall someone could literally just pick it up and carry it off.


Due to the attachment limitations, sounds like you're going to want to go with a "real" safe, one that's on the smaller end of the size spectrum but still too heavy on its own to just cart off easily.

Keep in Mind - Until you are able to get one you can carefully open from the bottom a box of adult Depends, remove half a box of adult Depends, sandwich your items in the middle of the box, and then glue the box bottom back closed.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Don't bother with the various sheet metal "security cabinets". While they're appropriately sized for what you're wanting to store, they offer shit protection, and since you're not going to be able to bolt them to the floor/wall someone could literally just pick it up and carry it off.

While I don't disagree that a sheet metal security cabinet is not worth the trouble, I don't really know that a real gun safe is any better.


Arguably, any safe that will fit through a door is easily carted off when a dolly is employed. I have moved my 400-500lb safe using a dolly and a strap around my garage fairly routinely. I imagine the experienced deployment of moving equipment, and a couple of fellas with strong backs, would make short work of even a safe weighing twice or thrice that. Three guys wearing bright orange safety vests and weight lifting belts would literally be ignored as they carted your safe to the elevator and to a van.

If I were renting, I would "offer" to install a raised installation pad in the master bedroom closet or the garage for my safe. Let him know that any future tenant would be able to bolt their own safe to such pad without damage to his foundation (but that you'd be taking your safe when you moved).

I will own the condo, as of 11/15

This: Zanetti Armor Z1.

Buying a safe that can't just be carted off will cost more than the guns you are proposing to store are worth.

Being realistic, a random person breaking into your condo isn't going to cart of your 400# cabinet/safe. They just aren't coming prepared for that.

What you need to be wary of is the nonrandom person. The person you told you own guns, that you told you have a safe, that you invited into your house. Not just that person, but everyone they've talked to.

True story: We had a tools, an outboard, all my motorcycle racing gear, and our trash cans stolen out of a garage we owned. They actually used our trash cans to cart off our stuff. Long story short, we tracked it down to the loser grandson of a friend of my dad's. The friend had a key because he was doing some work for us, grandson took the key out of his grandfather's truck.

It gets better. We changed the locks, garage codes, and scheduled ADT to install an alarm system. The day ADT was scheduled to do the install, I got a call at 7am from a sheriff's deputy asking home many motorcycles we had in the garage. We were two short. Someone had broken in, used the tools we bought to replace the ones that were stolen to cut the locks on the garage door, and hot wire to of the motorcycles. Long story short, one of the guys was caught trying to sell one of the motorcycles. Guess who he shared a cell with in the county jail at one point? The loser grandson.

My point being, the more you tell people, the more you raise your chances of becoming a target. You could tell your barber that you bought some gold coins, on another visit, you might tell him you're taking a vacation.

From one of our very own members, you could hire a cleaning person who goes though all your stuff and even invites other people to look at your stuff.

This is where layers of security help. Nobody ever gets a key. Alarm system. Security cameras. Dog. Reinforce the front door and get a good deadbolt.

False wall in the back of a closet.

Hide 'em under the bed and let the boogeyman guard them.

Disguise the safe as something else. A bench, a run of heating duct, freezer, hot water tank, false wall with a false fuse panel. In ceiling with a drop down fluorescent light. Small bookcase/shelf unit with weapons hanging in false back. False tower speakers. False wall in a broom closet.

Almost any security container will keep your guns out of the reach of kids and others that have your permission to be there.

A good alarm system is the answer to keeping your guns safe from burglary.

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Disguise the safe as something else. A bench, a run of heating duct, freezer, hot water tank, false wall with a false fuse panel. In ceiling with a drop down fluorescent light. Small bookcase/shelf unit with weapons hanging in false back. False tower speakers. False wall in a broom closet.

My BIL had one of those moving wardrobe boxes with the bottom cut out in a storage room. He slid it over the top of his gun cabinet. It was the last place one would look for something valuable.

I agree with the idea of making it look like something it is not supposed to be. There are coffee tables that have hidden storage areas or making false backs/bottoms in your cabinet/closet. The downside of having a safe not bolted down is that some have heavy doors and can fall on top of you or someone else when you open it.

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My point being, the more you tell people, the more you raise your chances of becoming a target. You could tell your barber that you bought some gold coins, on another visit, you might tell him you're taking a vacation.

From one of our very own members, you could hire a cleaning person who goes though all your stuff and even invites other people to look at your stuff.

This is where layers of security help. Nobody ever gets a key. Alarm system. Security cameras. Dog. Reinforce the front door and get a good deadbolt.

Yep, loose lips sink ships .....

A decent enough safe to keep things locked up hide it if you can,Snap Safe sounds good, you won't need a safe moving company to bring it up and it won't flag you to anyone that you have a safe

A discreet gun cases for range trips is a plus... no flags to others





Of course you'll have to take up the guitar and have one just sitting around in the Condo for looks....

Small Home safe--1/3 the size of a regular gun safe. You can store handguns, lowers, laptop, keys, etc. Tuck it away in the corner--secure, fireproof.

I'm selling a Zanotti safe. Would be a good size for a condo:

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/4630015494

V-line:

https://www.vlineind.com/shop/...l-quick-access-safe/