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That's going to be vet/location dependent. I don't pay even a third of that per year for regular checkups, shots, and preventative meds.

I pay ~$150 for checkup and shots and another ~$160 for a year of Heartgard meds.


Same here, maybe even less. I give him all of his shots except for rabies myself, as well as doing his baths and toenails. The vet is pretty much just for the rabies shot (legal requirement), heartworm prescription, and general checkup. Our dogs have always been very healthy.

As to the original question in the OP:

They don't live long enough. And it's a lot harder than you think when they go. But it's absolutely worth it. Enjoy every minute!
 
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I have a Shepard/Australian/Husky mix.

I have never been a fan of crate training and have never used it.

What you get with a mix is a lottery. Depends on what genes dominate.

Mine was a rescue, we brought him to a professional trainer to speed up the process to get him trained.

Consistency is the key.

Trainers train the owner and the dog.

The Australian part in mine wants to instinctively heard things, including people.

They should get exercised one to two hours a day.
 
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I found out from our first Shepherd, that you can potty train them.

Not just to pee/poo out in the back yard-
We have a run in the back corner of the yard, brick border with pea gravel (about 4” deep). We trained our dogs to go potty there.

Female dogs urine kills grass.
This way, we don’t have a bunch of brown/burnt spores in the grass, and Im not looking for “land mines” every day.
Cheap poop scooper and the pea gravel falls through.
Every month- 6 weeks, Ill spray it down with simple green just to keep it clean!


Oh, when a German Shepherd Pup howls at a passing fire truck/police car siren, it’s kinda cute.
When a 3 year old German Shepherd howls at a passing siren at 4am, it’s irritating.


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Most dogs, especially working breeds, require physical AND mental activity. We have Australian Shepherds that get no free rides. For example, they wait until told to eat, go outside and get into vehicles. If they get a treat, they are told down or sit; sometimes turn left or turn right and sit. I play "hide and seek" with our dogs by making them sit and stay in the kitchen while I go into another room at which time I call out "RELEASE, come find me". Nothing too complicated but it works their minds while reinforcing basic commands.

Be consistent with your commands. To avoid confusing the dog, choose words that EVERYONE in the family can be consistent in using.

I'm in the camp of crate training. Our dogs sleep at night in their crates and travel in crates. Reason is, if an accident occurs, the last thing I want is one of my dogs loose on a road or freeway where they might get struck by a car. Also, if we travel, most motels will accept a dog that's crate trained knowing the owner will control their bathroom habits and not allow "accidents" in the room.

Figure out a method for flea control. Several options out there, talk to your vet and see what they prefer.

Also, I am not a fan of tennis balls for dogs. While the outer coating seems harmless, it is very abrasive and can wear a dogs teeth, especially the canines.

Best of luck with your new pup, they can be the greatest addition to a family.


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Someone else said it, but you should play with their ears, mouth, feet, tails to desensitize them from being pulled by someone down the road.

We sent ours to school and she’s crate trained like Rock was. It’s super nice to just look at her and say “crate” and she goes in and will chill so I can run an errand w/o her tearing something up.



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Congratulations. I recently lost my bird dog after 15 years. I miss her every single day.

If this is a new puppy, they will chew and need to chew when teeth come in. They can destroy anything they find to chew on. Electric cords included. They can also eat many things that can kill them. Don't leave them unattended. Try and have everyone onboard with using the same commands. Simple ones. Here..for come etc. Not 15 different commands that are supposed to mean the same thing. Patience and firm gentleness. No swatting with a newspaper etc. did I mention patience?



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Sounds like you are very prepared! The only things I would consider are more of a raw diet vs all kibble and getting titers for vaccines vs just getting the vet scheduled ones. Pets are being over vaccinated when antibodies are still at adequate levels. This leads to cancer and other autoimmune
compromises. Labs are especially susceptible to cancer. Doing this from the get go may help decrease chances of it.

Most of all congrats! And, post pics when you get your new pup!



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Good advice above. I'd add getting a Gentle Leader when you start to leash train. Which, BTW, should be damn early..... Incredibly effective without the harshness we had used at times.

We had a lab as our kids grew up up who was a joy to have around and a constant pleaser, aka easy to train. However even with her being part of the family we had strict boundaries about what she could/couldn't do and everybody, EVERYBODY, had to adhere to those for the success we had over her 14 years. Agree on this up front if at all possible.

Best advice we got from her "parents" was to remember that she was here for our enjoyment and control/direction, not the other way around.



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Sorry for the lack of updates! Spring is insane with kids sports-instruments-extracurriculars.

We're down to 3 weeks to go, with a take-home date of June 4. The kids are pretty excited, and I have 4 days off to get started on all the stuff related to walking, bathroom, etc.

Here's the litter, with their temporary names. We don't exactly know which one yet, because this place matches based on temperament and what our lives are like. (We don't necessarily want a coiled spring since we're not aggressively outdoorsy etc.)

I love this breeder. Their "pupdates" that they send every week are just great. Here's an excerpt from the latest one:

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These babies are getting so big! I know I say it every week, but I can't get over how fast they're growing! The puppies received their first full puppy groom today. They were bathed, blown dry, given sanitary grooms, trimming on their faces, and their sweet little paw pads. They look SO cute and fluffy!


What’s Happening Now:

We are continuing to exercise their startle reflex - we have come to the conclusion that we need to get more creative as we're having a hard time getting a startle out of them now! They are such amazing puppies and I am so pleased with how they're progressing.


Mama is still nursing full time, which is so amazing!!! They will get their first taste of kibble tomorrow and will also spend their first night away from mama. We do this slowly and follow mama’s pace.


What’s to Come:

Coming up this coming week! We will be creating several new building blocks for the puppies. They lost their small playpen and moved to a larger fenced off play area with a designated potty spot as well as a play and sleeping area. They will still be allowed to nurse as often as mama wants to.. We have introduced a shallow water bowl, regular feeding times will come in the next week, and will start creating barrier challenges for them. A barrier challenge is wonderful as the puppy can see the food (food on one end of a fence panel, puppy has to learn to go around the fence instead of "through" the fence) but cannot get to it without thinking it through. It is so important for the puppies to experience frustration then learn from their frustration to become more confident and moldable. We are going to be making the puppies problem solve constantly which will build their confidence exponentially. I can't believe they're growing so fast!!


Puppy Prep #6 (Crate Training):

One of the best things you can do for your puppy is to crate train them! It not only is a HUGE help with potty training, it also gives your puppy a safe space so they don’t get into mischief. Even if you are home most of the time, utilize the crate on a daily basis so you don’t create separation issues. These dogs were literally created to be with you, they want to be with their people. We must train them from a young age to be ok with being away from us. It would be more unusual if your puppy didn’t care that you left! This is normal.


Crate training puppies can be brutal - go into it with a mindset that it’s going to sound like your puppy is the most dramatic thing on this planet. I promise, the more often you utilize the crate in the beginning, the faster and better your puppy will be!


I have super concrete rules for crate training. You must first check off these boxes before you utilize the crate. Be sure their needs are met before placing them in the crate!


Has the puppy gone potty and had access to water?


Is the puppy worn out and not full of energy?


Does the puppy have a mental outlet in the crate with them (stuffed kong or similar)?


If you were able to check off those boxes, grab your head phones and get ready to ignore some serious drama!!


Place the puppy’s crate in the most busy room of your house (often families will utilize 2 crates as they don’t love moving the crate every day). It seems counterproductive, but it's so important to get your puppy used to it!!


Put your sweet fluffy puppy into the crate with something super yummy - your puppy should only ever get this super yummy thing when they’re in their crate - no allowing it at any other time.. So if your puppy thinks peanut butter is the bees knees, then freeze it with some soaked kibble in the kong and puppy only ever gets it when they’re in their crate.


Walk away and go about your day. DO NOT TIP TOE AROUND YOUR PUPPY! The more opportunities you show your puppy that their drama doesn’t work, the faster this process goes!


Never ever look, talk, touch, or get your puppy out if they are excited, whining, barking, whimpering, or doing anything except being calm.


Often the drama will reach 2+ hours, so be sure to prepare yourself with some good music and good earbuds! I promise this doesn’t last more than a few days if you are really focusing on it! It is SO worth it!!!


Once your puppy is quiet for more than a couple of minutes, sometimes this will even last until they fall asleep, then let your puppy out (NO TALKING or excitement!) and carry them outside to potty. Then you can give them a treat and some calm praise.


This is VERY important - never show excitement when getting your puppy out of their crate - always stay calm and stoic - being excited or getting your puppy out when they’re crying creates separation anxiety.


Play with your puppy, do some training sessions, enjoy each other, then, when your puppy is getting tired… start the whole process all over again. It will seem excessive, but my day 3-4 - your puppy shouldn’t put up much fuss at all! I do 3-5 crate sessions a day. Sometimes they last 2 hours, sometimes they last 45 minutes. Don’t stop what you are doing to get puppy out - finish what you’re doing then wait for puppy to be quiet and calm, remember, they are on your schedule, not the other way around.



It's been really enjoyable reading these aloud to the two younger boys. They're all in.




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Learn how to train humanely and properly BEFORE the dog gets there, and you make mistakes based on lack of knowledge or frustration.



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Veeper good you took off work. What I do when I first get a pup is set a timer. Every 2-3 hours the first few weeks, I wake up to the timer, take the pup out to potty. After 1-2 months, every 4 hours. It sucks, but man does it speed up the potty training big time. Every time when you do it, put a lead on their collar, and calmly walk them out. After a few months, you’ll be able to sleep the normal night’s sleep without interruption. Every time they do #1 or #2, man act like the k9 just found a cure for cancer. Tons of praise, good job, whatever language you want to use. It reinforces the behavior.

And if it’s coming out of a litter, it may lose its’ mind the first couple of nights. I imported a GSD from Germany in 2008. She made the flight from Frankfurt OK. Was great in the vehicle, in the crate OK. Got her to eat, potty, went to bed that first night. And she started screaming her lights out and wouldn’t stop. I put a sheet on the crate, didn’t do anything. I turned on some classical music, didn’t do anything. Eventually so I could get a few hours sleep and not go insane, I just picked up the crate and put it in the garage (was winter so no temp issues), shut the door to my garage, and the door to my master bedroom. Turned on some white noise and went to sleep. You have to teach them that screaming, howling, making racket, you are completely unaffected. No matter how bad it sounds you have to ignore it. You start responding to it and they’ll know they have you and can just whine their way to getting whatever they want. You are the law, so enforce it.

If you get a jumper where they jump on you or on furniture, take one of their front paws and pinch it from both sides. They get it real fast and cut it out. Good luck again.



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