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Liberals Diagnose Situational Awareness............

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February 19, 2022, 05:17 AM
sgalczyn
Liberals Diagnose Situational Awareness............
SO - everyone here with a good sense of SA is mentally ill....................oooooookay. Perhaps if one takes it to an extreme but c'mon man:

https://www.insider.com/parano...3IIkKqyPD7g9BrB6ch9w

If you know someone who is always suspicious and holds grudges, they may have PPD

Paranoid personality disorder (PPD) is a mental health condition that can cause extreme mistrust and fear of other people, according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

PPD is somewhat rare — between 2.3% and 4.4% of Americans are thought to have the condition.

There is still very little research on paranoid personality disorder and the best way to treat it, but some types of psychotherapy may help.

Here are the most common symptoms of PPD and the best way to manage it.
What is paranoid personality disorder?

" People with this diagnosis tend to be suspicious and mistrustful of other people, tense and nervous in social situations, and on the lookout for threat, " says Chris Hopwood, PhD, a professor of psychology at University of Zurich.

They tend to have trouble keeping up friendships and romantic connections, and may be easily insulted or offended.

"People with PPD are outwardly hostile and may seem aloof" because they experience relationships as a source of stress, says Royce Lee, MD, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral neuroscience at the University of Chicago.

Some of the common symptoms of PPD include:

Believing that other people are lying or exploiting them
Holding grudges or refusing to forgive
Being overly sensitive to criticism
Being afraid to reveal any personal information to other people
Falsely thinking that other people are insulting them
Always suspecting that their partner is cheating on them
Assuming there are hidden meanings in other people's casual remarks or looks
Having a hard time relaxing
Being easily angered and quick to argue

People with PPD have a hard time connecting with other people, but that doesn't mean they're dangerous. "They can be prone to anger, but are not necessarily violent," Lee says.

And - there it is:
According to Lee, some experiences that are linked to PPD include:

Experiences of racism
Poverty
Immigration
Childhood abuse


SO - think we can get a SF group rate discount setup for therapy??


"No matter where you go - there you are"
February 19, 2022, 06:00 AM
r0gue
There is virtually nothing in that article that is situational awareness. What they're describing are actually mentally ill people. I've met one person in particular that fits this description to a tee.




February 19, 2022, 06:04 AM
PHPaul
quote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
There is virtually nothing in that article that is situational awareness. What they're describing are actually mentally ill people.<snip>


That's my take on it.




Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
February 19, 2022, 07:38 AM
Flash-LB
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
quote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
There is virtually nothing in that article that is situational awareness. What they're describing are actually mentally ill people.<snip>


That's my take on it.


Mine as well. What was listed is not situational awareness at all. In actuality, it's pretty descriptive of a progressive.
February 19, 2022, 07:39 AM
gearhounds
Just another attempt by supposedly smart people to pigeon hole and “classify” people. I don’t see what they’re describing so much as mental illness. Perhaps those that are at the extreme end of the spectrum might qualify as mentally ill but you could also argue that a large swath have a genetic trait that is a survival mechanism. Some people are just happier being loners and never do a bit of harm by being so. If you try hard enough, you can find traits anyone has and deem them “mentally ill”.




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February 19, 2022, 07:56 AM
Tirod
"Outwardly hostile and aloof" can describe a lot of management.

It is a tendency that one generation then selects and rewards the next with the same traits - I've worked in that culture and saw three generations of it. When it came to delivering on Customer Service tho, it was all unicorns and rainbows.

Employees, tho, were dirt.

Now look at how the media and bureaucrats treat the average citizen. Those who are truly public servants do well, but they are a minority compared to the "hostile and aloof." Much less how some look down on citizens as herd animals to be managed.

There was a time when officials were appreciated for their service to the people and noted for trying to lift all the citizens up. Much less now, and PPD explains it.

That projection thing again - the ones affected or guilty of doing something they blame others for committing.

It also might explain some who seem overzealously enforcing masking mandate, but it might also be a reflection of "Air Raid Authority." They have the power to order their neighbors around and blow whistles at their nonconforming behavior.

Currently Id say those with this personality disorder are much in the news.
February 19, 2022, 08:56 AM
arfmel
“Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.”
February 19, 2022, 09:31 AM
sigmonkey
Labels suck. No, wait that's vacuums. Labels... OK, they suck.

You can take such a generalized glop of shit, such as the filler of which that "article" is constructed and add any "Labels" you want, and it still smells the same when finished.

It's a typical boilerplate piece. Lazy "writer" uses to push out something so they can get paid.

For example, replace the labels used with these and see what happens.

Jews, BLM, rednecks, bikers, sexworkers, teamsters, actors, comedians, politicians, pilots, toddlers, cats, truckers, preachers, leftists, wives, boyfriends.

I am not sure what irritates me more, the fact that such obvious pap is fed to the masses like cheap fodder, or that people consume it and think it fitting to share.


People that perceive a piece such as this applying to them, are half the audience, the other half are those with confirmation bias.

The whole point is to attract both, and with no concern of truth or validity, only readership, cuz baby needs shoes, and someone's gotta sell soap.

And the Labels? It's the bait. First they are used on people, and people become attached to them. And nobody likes their label touched... That's how they draw people in.

Oh, and it does not matter what side of the hate anyone is on, left, right, matters not. The device works the same way with the same effect.

"Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther party."




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February 19, 2022, 09:43 AM
LoboGunLeather
Reminds me a bit of the final decade or so of Soviet rule. Anyone who was thought to question the government was presumed to be mentally ill; how can a person question the obvious benefits of a perfected utopian society? Many thousands were committed to psychiatric facilities and turned into zombies by psychotropic drugs.

I'm sure there are those in US government and academia who would accept this as a means for silencing opposition, and doing so in such a way that the appearances of caring for the afflicted malcontents can be maintained.


Retired holster maker.
Retired police chief.
Formerly Sergeant, US Army Airborne Infantry, Pathfinders
February 19, 2022, 09:45 AM
SIGnified
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
February 19, 2022, 09:50 AM
gearhounds
Not to invest too much effort into making a tin foil hat, but guess what they can deny you/take from you if they deem you mentally ill? Among other things, guns.




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February 19, 2022, 10:10 AM
bdylan
It's subjective bullshit and ,yeah, lots of people are nuts.
February 19, 2022, 11:05 AM
Dakor
New time the idiotic author crosses the highway, lets hope he/she practices what they preach and doesn't look both ways.
February 19, 2022, 11:36 AM
kidcop
You know, thinking that everything is about you is a hallmark of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. See the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual 5th Edition.

There's vigilance, then there is hypervigilance, which is very much a bad thing and leads to problems in personal and social interactions, establishing relationships and increased chronic blood levels of adrenaline and cortisol along with other indicators of a long-term overload of unmitigated stress. Some of the major populations suffering from hypervigilance are cops and combat vets, where it is an element of PTSD. Run a simple Google search for "hypervigilance."

If you think that the article is addressing the average SigForum member you might want to take a few deep, cleansing breaths, from the diaphragm, and have a chat with a clinician.
February 19, 2022, 11:40 AM
ZSMICHAEL
The DSM is a joke. It is being revised for the latest edition to come out in March. It is a project essentially of Big Pharma and Organized Psychiatry who wish to codify and diagnose all human behavior. It is an even greater joke when people like the author try to explain very simple terms such as Hyervigilance.
February 19, 2022, 11:48 AM
kidcop
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
The DSM is a joke. It is being revised for the latest edition to come out in March. It is a project essentially of Big Pharma and Organized Psychiatry who wish to codify and diagnose all human behavior. It is an even greater joke when people like the author try to explain very simple terms such as Hyervigilance.


What do you base that on? Revision is good and reflects advances in research and the collective body of knowledge. Do you have a better way of describing the various mental illnesses?

Hypervigilance may be a simple concept to you, but try explaining it to a guy or girl who suffers from it, particularly when they are in a profession like policing or the military where a heightened level of vigilance is a job requirement.
February 19, 2022, 12:14 PM
ZSMICHAEL
ICD 10 is terrible as well but beats the DSM hands down. Take a look at some of the off the wall diagnoses in DSM. Disorders that were not there before but now suddenly appear.

Hypervigilance may be a simple concept to you, but try explaining it to a guy or girl who suffers from it, particularly when they are in a profession like policing or the military where a heightened level of vigilance is a job requirement.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hypervigilance is a descriptive term only not a diagnosis. Imagine a continuum of vigilant behavior from looking both ways when crossing a street to a heated gun battle. It is not pathological in and of itself.
February 19, 2022, 12:52 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
quote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
There is virtually nothing in that article that is situational awareness.
That's my take on it.
Mine as well.
Me four.



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February 19, 2022, 01:22 PM
Ryanp225
Sounds like bpd or clinical narcissism.
February 19, 2022, 02:54 PM
sgalczyn
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
quote:
Originally posted by Flash-LB:
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
quote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
There is virtually nothing in that article that is situational awareness.
That's my take on it.
Mine as well.
Me four.



Hence the traits that I highlighted as key to SA:
" People with this diagnosis tend to be suspicious and mistrustful of other people, tense and nervous in social situations, and on the lookout for threat, " says Chris Hopwood, PhD, a professor of psychology at University of Zurich.


"No matter where you go - there you are"