Upcoming food shortages?

April 11, 2022, 12:23 AM

Plugugly

quote:
Originally posted by ryan81986:
Do you need gamma lids? Or will the regular food grade lids work?

I prefer the gammas for ease of access. Regular lids work fine, I'm sure.

April 11, 2022, 05:10 AM

Schmelby

I never considered myself a prepper until recently.
Can someone recommend one book that would go over the basics?

April 11, 2022, 07:20 AM

pace40

quote:
Originally posted by Schmelby:
I never considered myself a prepper until recently.
Can someone recommend one book that would go over the basics?

Depends on your definition of "basics". If you're looking for what to buy to get you thru a few months, any beans, bullets and band-aids book will do. If you're looking for self-sustaining survivability, my 2 favorites are The Encyclopedia of Country Living by Emery and The Survival Medicine Handbook by Alton.

April 11, 2022, 07:27 AM

sourdough44

Just think of the chaos of a few weeks without the usual comforts, food, electricity, whatever?

I may not be a true ‘preppier’, but can get by fairly well. It makes sense to be able to go a week or so without resupply. If nothing else, be ready with storms or natural calamities.

April 11, 2022, 08:29 AM

Voshterkoff

Chicken is currently in short supply.

April 11, 2022, 08:48 AM

leavemebe

Wife and I had the opportunity to do a little testing of our longterm food stuffs during the scamdemic. We figure we have a 1 year supply of dry and canned goods stored up and in good shape. We will be adding a bit more just in case. The garden provides some fresh veggies for all but a couple of months. Cold frames are great. We did stop canning a number of years ago but can do it again if the need arrises. Plenty of deer and tree rats right now. No telling how the meat supply on hoof, foot and wing will go if true chaos grips the currently insane world. Many of us in this part of the county hunt.

April 11, 2022, 09:24 AM

Ackks

How long does commercially packed frozen chicken in bags last past the expiration date?

April 11, 2022, 10:08 AM

Schmelby

Right now I have enough that I wouldn't have to leave the house for
four or five months. But if the shit really hit the fan, I would bring
my two sons home from their apartments. I'm not really that worried,I
just think it's wise to be prepared.
Oh, if you ever think you'll need to barter, stock up on alcohol!!

April 11, 2022, 10:23 AM

Schmelby

quote:
Originally posted by pace40:
quote:
Originally posted by Schmelby:
I never considered myself a prepper until recently.
Can someone recommend one book that would go over the basics?

Depends on your definition of "basics". If you're looking for what to buy to get you thru a few months, any beans, bullets and band-aids book will do. If you're looking for self-sustaining survivability, my 2 favorites are The Encyclopedia of Country Living by Emery and The Survival Medicine Handbook by Alton.

Thanks Pace, I'm sure there are things I haven't thought of.

April 11, 2022, 10:25 AM

sigmonkey

quote:
Originally posted by Ackks:
How long does commercially packed frozen chicken in bags last past the expiration date?

If never thawed, it will store for years, but the quality/taste may suffer over time.

I have kept frozen boneless breasts for several years and it was fine.

If the sealed bag is opened or breaks, and it is not fully resealed (heat sealed and vacuum bags at home are best) then the moisture in the food will sublimate and odors will be absorbed.

April 11, 2022, 10:39 AM

Jupiter

quote:
Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
Chicken is currently in short supply.

Based on the recent headlines across the globe, it's about to get much worse.
All anyone needs to do is go to your favorite search engine and search for "Bird Flu".

Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

April 11, 2022, 10:47 AM

Schmelby

quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:
quote:
Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
Chicken is currently in short supply.

Based on the recent headlines across the globe, it's about to get much worse.
All anyone needs to do is go to your favorite search engine and search for "Bird Flu".

I think I'll go to Krogers tonight!

If chicken lasts that long in the freezer,
I'll buy 300 dollars worth. Hamburger too. I have two freezers.

April 11, 2022, 11:38 AM

pace40

quote:
Originally posted by Schmelby:

Thanks Pace, I'm sure there are things I haven't thought of.

Carry a small notebook and pencil for a week. Write down everything you do and then answer 2 questions:

1) Is this something I really need to do?
If yes, go to question 2, if no cross it off.

2) How am I going to do this in grid down/shtf?

If you're anything thing like me, the first biggie in the morning is going to the bathroom

At the end of the week, you'll have a pretty good idea of what you need. Just remember that there is no power, no shopping, no running water, etc.

April 11, 2022, 11:45 AM

Ackks

quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:

If never thawed, it will store for years, but the quality/taste may suffer over time.

I have kept frozen boneless breasts for several years and it was fine.

If the sealed bag is opened or breaks, and it is not fully resealed (heat sealed and vacuum bags at home are best) then the moisture in the food will sublimate and odors will be absorbed.

Thanks, sigmonkey. These are sealed bags of breaded nuggets from Perdue. I've thought about opening them and sealing them in vacuum bags, but maybe it's best to leave them be if they will last a few years the way they are.

April 11, 2022, 11:48 AM

Gustofer

quote:
Originally posted by Ackks:
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:

If never thawed, it will store for years, but the quality/taste may suffer over time.

I have kept frozen boneless breasts for several years and it was fine.

If the sealed bag is opened or breaks, and it is not fully resealed (heat sealed and vacuum bags at home are best) then the moisture in the food will sublimate and odors will be absorbed.

Thanks, sigmonkey. These are sealed bags of breaded nuggets from Perdue. I've thought about opening them and sealing them in vacuum bags, but maybe it's best to leave them be if they will last a few years the way they are.

If they are not vacuum sealed they'll get freezer burned fairly quickly. Still edible but not too tasty.

April 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

Schmelby

quote:
Originally posted by pace40:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Schmelby:

If you're anything thing like me, the first biggie in the morning is going to the bathroom

Of course, that's priority number one!
I think maybe a medium size propane generator and I'll be set.
But who knows? It's all a crapshoot.

water, etc.

April 11, 2022, 12:20 PM

OKCGene

^^^^^ LOL, my neighbor, retired cop, has bought multiple cases of the small, what do you call them like a hip pocket size, of various liquors like whiskey bourbons tequila vodka gin etc etc etc. He has a shitpile of them. He states that if SHTF people will be doing a lot more drinking and thus more willing to barter.
.

April 11, 2022, 12:35 PM

Schmelby

quote:
Originally posted by OKCGene:
^^^^^ LOL, my neighbor, retired cop, has bought multiple cases of the small, what do you call them like a hip pocket size, of various liquors like whiskey bourbons tequila vodka gin etc etc etc. He has a shitpile of them. He states that if SHTF people will be doing a lot more drinking and thus more willing to barter.
.

It's not that regular people will want to start to drinking more, It's the alcoholics
who can't get what they need. Sell their soul for more.

April 11, 2022, 12:45 PM

old rugged cross

We vacuum seal some items. Other items no. It does help for sure. Have multiple freezer spaces. Have little to no freezer burn issues. There may be environmental factors, I don't know. I have had Meat in the freezer for two or three years. Can out wonderful when cooked. So different strokes for different folks I guess.