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Some say addictions are choices. Others say there is a point at which the choice is gone. Then there is rock bottom where one seizes his choice back. I have a recovering alcoholic friend who says the definition of rock bottom is that moment when your circumstances decay faster than your ability to lower your standards. Habits are hard to break. Addictions are even harder.

One of my most innocuous habits was nail biting. I did it my entire childhood. My fingers were always bloody and sore. Nothing my parents did would stop me. One day I decided to carry fingernail clippers in my pocket. I quit cold turkey. To this day 45 years later there is always a clipper within reach.

Another addiction I suffered was nasal spray. I didn't know it when I started, but that stuff is evil. Use it more than three days in a row and you get rebound congestion that can only be resolved quickly by more and more nasal spray. By the time I realized I was hooked, I was using a bottle every three days. When we went somewhere, I had to be sure I had my spray. I had bottles stashed everywhere. I am embarrassed to say I was physically addicted for years. Years! I read online that prolonged use of nasal spray would result in necrosis of the tissue requiring removal and disfigurement! I finally decided that I would quit over the Christmas/New Years holidays one year because it would not matter if I couldn't sleep for having to mouth breathe. I read up on what I could expect for the rebound cycle to ease. It would be 7 days.

Finally the moment came when my nasal passages closed and I didn't spray. When I say closed, I mean vault tight. It was miserable to swallow, eat, drink, sleep, talk, cough, sneeze. I was struck at how much we rely on open nasal passages. Misery did not move my resolve. That night I did not sleep. I quickly learned how dry the mouth gets as a mouth breather. So I drank water. Big mistake. Don't drink. Sip. Don't swallow. Rinse. I tried to sleep with a humidifier aimed directly at my mouth the next night. No go. No sleep.

By now the misery index was as high as it had ever been. No sleep for two nights and three days made me irritable. I sequestered myself. Sometime during the third night I slept, but not for long as I woke up with leather mouth. Still a mouth breather. My nasal passages still freakin' slammed shut. I skipped all family Christmas parties. Sorry DF is not feeling well. Night four I desperately used Breathe right strips and double doses of menthol lozenges. No go. But I did sleep. Leather mouth in a couple of hours. So bad my tongue stuck to the roof of my mouth. Day five.......a break in the vault. Just a crack, but it was a glorious crack. Still a mouth breather, I could swallow with some comfort. I slept that whole night. Leather mouth in the morning but with even more open nasal passages. Was like I had a bad cold. Finally on day seven my passages were about 50% and I could breath with my mouth closed albeit labored. Day nine I could breathe 100% with ease. I had broken the bond and was free. I will never go back there again.

The bondage is real. Once ya get back over the fence why would ya ever go back .... If ya start hanging with ppl that commonly use and the facts of the past fade away .... taking that first (of many to come) hit starts the progression all over.....

I'm in recovery. 9yrs now.
I had 16 in 2005.
A glass of wine ended that. I had the idea I would control it this time. About 5 yrs later and allot of damage I got stopped again.
How to stay stopped is my day to day plan. It's not all rainbows & unicorns but it's better than living in the pain of active addiction.
I go to meetings, have a sponsor, work steps, call others that do the same.
Is it normal ? Idk, but it's necessary for me.
WE get clean, WE stay clean.
 
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I am not sure this really qualifies as "breaking an addiction", but I used to drink a pretty normal amount and I love the taste of beer.
But noting how it made me sluggish and lazy, and also noting the profoundly negative effects of alcohol on society in general, I just quit drinking entirely. That was probably about 20 years ago.
I don't really miss 'alcohol' at all, but I do miss beer. I substituted sparkling water.

I have numerous alcoholics in my family tree. I don't know if I was "lucky" to not inherit the desire to drink, or if the alcoholics "let themselves succumb". But they did literally drink themselves to death.


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I quit smoking. I did it cold turkey after I realized that while I didn't really enjoy the cigarettes any more, I was hooked.

I didn't smoke at all for years, but now I have a cigar or a pipe every once in a while. I have no desire to go back to being hooked, though.




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I've done two cold turkey. A schedule 2n drug in 1982, and cigarettes in 1985. I also went through the nose spray hell in my youth, but not nearly as severely as the OP.
 
 
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Quit smoking 7-1/2 years ago, after over forty years on the things.

Actually kind of surprised myself with that one. I'd tried two times, previously, both times failing after about nine months.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I have a recovering alcoholic friend who says the definition of rock bottom is that moment when your circumstances decay faster than your ability to lower your standards.

I like that. Makes sense.



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Another good definition of hitting bottom that was given to me:
"Hitting bottom is when the very next thing you're about to lose is more valuable than the alcohol/drugs/whatever."
 
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I stopped dipping cold turkey


When I was in the army I would dip 3-5 logs of dip a week


Every Sunday I went to the PX and bought a log of Skoal cherry, 2 of Copenhagen, and 2 of Kodiak

I would take the cherry and mix it with the Copenhagen snd keep a tin in my uniform sock...with the cherry and the copey I got to where i could swallow the spit.

I went to the dentist because I had an impacted wisdom tooth and he showed me that my gums bled by just touching them. He told me I wouldn’t have any of my bottom teeth within 5 years. I was 20

Gave all my stuff away and quit cold turkey

Years later my current wife dumped me on Valentine’s Day (she hated dip. Still does)

Months later, in the summer, I was getting gas after working late one night, was in a particularly low place, and said “fuck it” and bought a tin or kodiak, left it in the console of the car, went home and went to bed

The next morning I got an unexpected knock on the door, went downstairs, and it was her. I hadn’t seen, heard from or talked to her in months, and there she was telling me she was wrong. She ended up staying 3 weeks

We were driving down a road in the mountains and she was asleep, and I covertly chucked the never opened tin out the window

That was 22 years ago. Our 20th wedding anniversary is in March

My mouth still waters if someone dips around me. Especially if it’s I can smell the kodiak. Got to bite the bear, before the bear bites you back


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I have the ability to "cold turkey" anything.

From things like cigarettes, to people/relationships, certain hobbies or activities.

Just, turn around, walk away.

And on the other side of that, if I am "in it", it's a death grip.

Always been like that.

So, I don't mess with high voltage, or crazy women.




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from 11-30 i drank smoked weed all the psychedelics. did coke with my now wife starting at 22 until she got pregnant with my daughter and that was it we both stopped i still drink but not like i used to Big Grin


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Yup. Life long smoker, pipes, cigars, whatever... but successfully went cold turkey on 16 April 2006. That was the day of my heart attack. haven't touched the stuff since. Had been unsuccessfully trying before that. Guess you could say I was scared off baccy weed that day! Smile



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I quit smoking cold turkey over 30 years ago after my dad had a heart attack and he quit cold turkey after 40+ years of Chesterfields, etc.

I figured if he could do it so could I. Cigs had been tasting like shit to me for about a year before, and the prices kept going up, so I was motivated. I still say they started doctoring up the tobacco or something.

I stuck lollipops in my mouth instead for a while, then quit those.
 
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I think it is useful to describe what we had to do to quit our addictions. I think it helps others who may be reading with the same difficulty/struggle. One thing I noticed with people who succeed in their battle against addiction is they have moved beyond shame or embarrassment. Describing one's addictions leaves one vulnerable. My alcoholic friend boldly states his experiences and even though he is ashamed at how far down the hole he went, he refuses to let shame be the device that keeps him from success. He has developed a method of continual correction when a decision he's made or behavior causes pain. He looks at himself in the mirror and says," I will never do that again". After all these years, he's gotten pretty good at maintaining those resolutions.

I admire each person who presses against the resistance of an addiction of any kind.



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As I said with mine, I just stopped, and refused to go back to them.

Not sure what the "trigger" is, but it is simply a "mind made up" that I am not doing X anymore, ever. Done.

I quit smoking a couple of times, and then started again, once was after about 3 months, so even though I had quit for that period of time, I did not consider it "a success", because I chose to "go back".

Second time I had quit for over a year, and foolishly had an "occasional" cigarette, and could "stop and start" for several weeks either way, then the next thing I know, I am back to pack and a half a day.

Several years of that and I put them down, and chose "never again", and that was 27 years ago.

Never miss it, do not think about it, even when smoking was still a thing a great number of people did.

During the "trying to quit" phase, (the last time) I did the gum, "tapering off" and whatnot, but found myself looking at the clock, waiting until I could have that next "allowed" smoke, and realized the gum and the "tapering" was only causing me to focus on the smoking, not the not-smoking.

So, I realized, having stopped before, it was cold turkey, and anything other than cold turkey as a method was counter productive to success.

Think about it. The Only way to stop drowning, is to quit breathing water.

Anyway, that is my method.

Walk away. I don't do X no more. Ever.
And then keep walking.




"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
 
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My experience is that of the Monkey, just walk away.


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I stopped drinking in June, cold turkey. The first five days absolutely sucked and the first month was hard. I did seek assistance from my doctor before I made the decision.

Here I am 198 days later and I’ve never felt better in my life. It’s incredible. I hope that it’s ‘forever’ ... that’s my goal at least.


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I think it is useful to describe what we had to do to quit our addictions. I think it helps others who may be reading with the same difficulty/struggle. One thing I noticed with people who succeed in their battle against addiction is they have moved beyond shame or embarrassment.


Excellent point.
If I openly face and discuss my alcoholism -- and all that it wrought -- then people cannot stigmatize me. I beat them to the punch.
It is very freeing, and helps get ego and false pride out of the way.
 
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Diet Coke, and it was frigging hard to quit drinking it. To this day I want one at lunch.

I was drinking 3 20oz bottles a day. The DC was bad enough but I always needed sweets with it and after drinking it.
 
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Quit cigarettes 20 years last Christmas day. My daughter was expecting my 2nd grandson. I knew that if I wanted to live see my grandsons grow up, I had to quit. The first few weeks were rough but I don't regret it. I've never had the urge to go back to them.


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For me, quitting cold turkey, it was an important psychological factor to keep some of the product on hand during the cold turkey process, sort of like I was proving to myself I really didn't need it. When smoking, we used to get our cigarettes via a co-worker who had access to a PX, so I had two cartons or so in the house when I quit. I waited two months before giving those away to a neighbor.
 
 
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I quit smoking 20+ years ago. After multiple attempts with patches, gum, etc., I just quit cold turkey. Just woke up one day and decided I was done. Once that mental switch was flipped, I have never struggled with relapse.
 
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