Ok, that makes sense. I will rewatch with context. At first the distracted driver, texting comments made no sense to me. I never noticed her brake lights either. Thanks for the explanations. I didn’t think the road even looked that bad.

I need a better monitor. Even with the heads up I still had trouble seeing it at first. Acceleration, hard brake, lost control. I got it now. She never saw the plow in front of her. Oh brother.

I actually had to watch a couple times to figure out what must have happened.

This is why we drive slowly during hazardous conditions, even if it doesn't look "that bad". My friend saw someone who wasn't as lucky. He was driving up to Tahoe during winter storm season, keeping a very safe speed. A road warrior probably also from the Bay Area roared past him, obviously at an unsafe clip. 5 minutes later my buddy came up on the wreck- augered himself right into a tree. "I believe he's dead," my friend had to tell the CHP officer who rolled up moments later.

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When she realized she was coming up on the plow very fast she hammered the brakes and lost control.

This. And what made it worse is that it appears she kept her foot on the brakes.

Rule #1 on icy roads is when you start to lose gription, take your foot off the gas and off the brakes. 9/10 times, the car will straighten itself right out. Otherwise, you turn your vehicle into nothing more than an air hockey puck.

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when you start to lose gription, take your foot off the gas and off the brakes. 9/10 times, the car will straighten itself right out.

A good example of this can be seen in slow motion when winching a vehicle. I'm sure there are Youtube videos that show this, and if anybody is that interested, I'll track one down.

When a car is rolling it will mostly go the direction the wheels are turning. Once those wheels stop turning it will mostly go the way it's being pulled instead. Doesn't matter if it's a winch line, or a banked/turning road where gravity does the rest.

Also doesn't help in heavy braking where the front wants to slow faster than the rear causing it to want to come around. This is also another case where contrary to many claims, four wheel drive IS four wheel stop. Same thing can happen, but with the entire driveline engaged it equalizes the braking front and rear.

(Sarcasm ahead). I’ve heard it on good authority that in snowy slippery conditions it’s better to drive your 4WD truck in 2WD. Only shifting into 4WD if your “read” of the road tells you it’s slippery. Whole thread in what’s your deal with 3 guys insisting that it’s genius to not use 4WD in the slick. Unbelievable.

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What dashcam are you guys using?

I bought this in 2014, this is the 3rd vehicle it's been in. There are much better ones out there though. Would like to get a rear facing cam as well.

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