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Backlash Against The NRA
May 31, 2022, 12:30 PM
Abn556Backlash Against The NRA
I am a life member and didn’t go to the show in Houston this weekend, though I live in the Houston burbs. I won’t give them any more money either. WLP needs to go immediately. He has been a cancer in the organization.
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May 31, 2022, 12:39 PM
alptraumquote:
Originally posted by Abn556:
WLP needs to go immediately. He has been a cancer in the organization.
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Totally agree. He not only has harmed the organization immensely, he continues to do so. Every day he and his cronies are still involved is a bad day for gun rights.
May 31, 2022, 01:05 PM
jljonesquote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Everybody want to take out their frustration and anger on WLP and some is justifiably so but the fact is we still need and should want the NRA to succeed.
I would rather focus on our inalienable Gun Rights not the hyperbole.
I think the damage is done. The NRA is a dying star and none of the rest will ever wield the power and influence that the NRA once did.
Gun owners will blame Lapierre but the fact is there is a lot of blame to go around.
May 31, 2022, 01:06 PM
justjoeWhen Colion Noir was quite active, up to a couple of years ago, he provided a glimpse of what NRA could be. He is very smart, fully informed, funny and charismatic. There are others as well, including some outstanding women. Instead we are stuck with Wayne and his ass crack full of burrs.
In any organisation, when corruption digs in, it is hard to root out. My guess is that JRE is right and the whole 70 member board (70 members?
) is compromised.
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May 31, 2022, 01:07 PM
stickman428Maybe the NRA should crash and burn. Out of its ashes maybe an effective and aggressive organization that isn’t run by elitist turds can rise.
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May 31, 2022, 01:58 PM
229DAKI suspect ole Wayne will stay put until the court cases against him (especially the NY case) have resolved, one way or another. Until he leaves, the NRA is paying his legal fees.
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May 31, 2022, 03:03 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by 229DAK:
I suspect ole Wayne will stay put until the court cases against him (especially the NY case) have resolved, one way or another. Until he leaves, the NRA is paying his legal fees.
I suspect he will have to die, or become so unhealthy that he can't continue. I think he controls the board nominations and only gets board members who will go along, thereby maintaining de-facto control of the whole NRA.
For example, Julie Golob got nominated and elected to the board a few years ago. Then she promptly resigned. I never heard anything about why. I have made the assumption that she wouldn't go along, and that the NRA was doing things that she couldn't sit still for. I have a lot of respect for her, and can see her resigning rather than keeping quiet and serving. This should not be happening.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. May 31, 2022, 03:32 PM
straightshooter1I hate that he got re-elected and I agree he obviously controls who is on the Board.I’ve been a Life Member for a long time and my wife, who was slow to get on the 2nd Amendment bandwagon joined several years ago as an annual member. We were just gonna get the Life Membership for her when WLP’s action hit the press. She was so mad she dropped her annual membership and we give zero $ to the NRA, and won’t, till that guy is long gone.
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May 31, 2022, 04:11 PM
smschulzquote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
Maybe the NRA should crash and burn.
May 31, 2022, 04:32 PM
stickman428Hey asswipe why not put my whole post up? When you cut that section you do the same shit as our worthless media and alter someone’s words to fit your agenda. Why not include the whole fucking quote? Because it would change the meaning of my post? You should work at CNN
Do you think it would be bad if the NRA folded and a MUCH more aggressive and successful org took its place?
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May 31, 2022, 04:32 PM
OgieTomorrow is the day annually that I send my membership dues in to the NRA. I usually add a little extra, this year even more so.
May 31, 2022, 04:47 PM
Ogiequote:
Do you think it would be bad if the NRA folded and a MUCH more aggressive and successful org took its place? Confused
What world are you living in?
May 31, 2022, 04:52 PM
nukeandpaveSeriously considering resigning my life membership.
May 31, 2022, 04:56 PM
vthokyquote:
Originally posted by nukeandpave:
Seriously considering resigning my life membership.
S'pose Wayne will offer you a refund?
God bless America. May 31, 2022, 04:57 PM
stickman428By all means send em more money. Their benevolent and hard working leader needs to go on a nice vacation to the Swiss Alps.
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May 31, 2022, 05:24 PM
justjoequote:
posted May 31, 2022 04:32 PM Hide Post
Tomorrow is the day annually that I send my membership dues in to the NRA. I usually add a little extra, this year even more so.
I don't want to be disrespectful. It's your money to do with as you wish, obviously. But after all that has come out about LaPierre's corruption, why on earth would you want to send him money, and more money at that? PT Barnum said,"There is a sucker born every minute." Sorry, but that's what I think when I read your post.
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May 31, 2022, 05:57 PM
Ogiequote:
Originally posted by justjoe:
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posted May 31, 2022 04:32 PM Hide Post
Tomorrow is the day annually that I send my membership dues in to the NRA. I usually add a little extra, this year even more so.
I don't want to be disrespectful. It's your money to do with as you wish, obviously. But after all that has come out about LaPierre's corruption, why on earth would you want to send him money, and more money at that? PT Barnum said,"There is a sucker born every minute." Sorry, but that's what I think when I read your post.
I don't really give a shit what you think.
The bottom line is that the NRA is still the biggest presence to fight for our 2nd Amendment rights. If you want to be the enemy of "good", then that is up to you.
May 31, 2022, 06:12 PM
Lefty SigThe GDC's would never let a re-built NRA or any other organization get very far. Lawsuits, de-platforming, de-monetizing, IRS complications, anything to prevent it from getting off the ground.
The NY AG is not interested in cleaning up the NRA or ejecting WLP. She wanted to dissolve the entire NRA for political reasons. That is what we are up against, abuse of power to eliminate political rivals. Similar to what Trump faced.
Even WLP is entitled to due process for whatever he is accused of. I haven't seen any evidence supporting the accusations. Not saying it isn't there, just that I haven't looked for it. If he misappropriated funds, charge him and put him on trial.
May 31, 2022, 06:58 PM
Lt CHEGquote:
Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Even WLP is entitled to due process for whatever he is accused of. I haven't seen any evidence supporting the accusations.
With respect to anything illegal that he has been accused of, certainly he is entitled to due process. As far as sucking at leading the organization and needing to be replaced for poor leadership - not so much. Even if none of these scandals about financial mismanagement came to be, he still should have been show the door as leader for ineffectiveness. Frankly, I’ve said for probably 15 years or more that he was doing a poor job leading the NRA, so yeah I don’t feel like he’s been denied any due process by getting shown the door if that hopefully does happen some day.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” May 31, 2022, 07:32 PM
Edmondquote:
Originally posted by Ogie:
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Originally posted by justjoe:
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posted May 31, 2022 04:32 PM Hide Post
Tomorrow is the day annually that I send my membership dues in to the NRA. I usually add a little extra, this year even more so.
I don't want to be disrespectful. It's your money to do with as you wish, obviously. But after all that has come out about LaPierre's corruption, why on earth would you want to send him money, and more money at that? PT Barnum said,"There is a sucker born every minute." Sorry, but that's what I think when I read your post.
I don't really give a shit what you think.
The bottom line is that the NRA is still the biggest presence to fight for our 2nd Amendment rights. If you want to be the enemy of "good", then that is up to you.
Joe just asked an honest question and said he didn't mean to be disrespectful yet your first line is you don't give a shit what he thinks.
We can't even ask adult questions here?
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