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Originally posted by 0-0:

Milei is more a curiosity that a contender. The starving will go on voting those who starve them. Their numbers growing by the minute.

The inflation has halved my worth twice and then twice again. Not much left by now.
Am so upset that you don’t see me here more often. Grown quiet sick of this shit. No improvement in sight. Published devaluation is nothing compared to street facts.

Cops would say “move on, nothing to watch here!”

Got better chances of getting elected myself.

0-0



Oopps. Eek
 
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I wonder about Milei’s legislative support.


From what I've read, sadly, minimal. He'll have to do a lot of horse trading to get anything accomplished.

I also hope that his security detail is vetted better than Benazir Bhutto's was.


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Milei is more a curiosity that a contender. The starving will go on voting those who starve them. Their numbers growing by the minute.

The inflation has halved my worth twice and then twice again. Not much left by now.
Am so upset that you don’t see me here more often. Grown quiet sick of this shit. No improvement in sight. Published devaluation is nothing compared to street facts.

Cops would say “move on, nothing to watch here!”

Got better chances of getting elected myself.

0-0



Oopps. Eek

Why that jibe? You might show some compassion for a member in a ruinous situation not of his making.



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The similarity is uncanny. Big Grin


Milei has often been compared to Donald Trump, and the two share a disdain for the political establishment, the media, and socialism.
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Javier Milei crushes Argentine left, becomes world's first libertarian head of state



Ya don't say...........................





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I'm glad to see the people of Argentina wake up and vote to improve their situation. To our friend 0-0, I'm hoping Milei can improv the economy and business climate. Lord knows he has his work cut out for him and the swamp will try to pull him back into socialism. Always wanted to go to Argentina, seems like a pretty place.




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Why that jibe? You might show some compassion for a member in a ruinous situation not of his making.


Looks to me like his "ruinous situation" just took a huge turn for the better.

0-0 has been posting here for years and I have always looked forward to his insights on Argentina's political landscape. I am hoping he will pop back in here and give us his thoughts on how Milei was able to do what he just did...and how so few saw it coming.

I've always been fascinated with Argentina and it is still in my bucket on places I would like to visit. Although at my age it is becoming less likely I guess.



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Originally posted by ibanda: Lord knows he has his work cut out for him and the swamp will try to pull him back into socialism.


Argentina's problems can't be attributed to socialists only. The Peronistas are far right of center and have been in power for most of the last century. The swamp in AR is nepotism, cronyism, pay to play and the elite controlling for their own (financial) benefit. Look at the $800K Kirchner was personally paid by Iran not to charge Hizbullah for the 1994 bombing of the AMIA Jewish Community Center as a prime example. And when federal prosecutor Alberto Nisman ended up dead the night before he was set to charge her for corruption...well, very Clinton-esque.


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Always wanted to go to Argentina, seems like a pretty place.


You should and it's gorgeous. I've been down multiple times since 1999...always a great trip (even like in Dec 2001 when there were riots going on)
 
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He is being blown out of proportion on purpose.
His following is insignificant and more so the people that would gladly join him governing this funny farm.

The fact that the ruling party didn’t manage a crushing victory (how could they with monthly two digits inflation) nor the opposition gain any ground and take advantage of the terrible situation. They are much divided themselves. So now we have this self appointed “libertarian “ making some fuzz and little practical sense.
He is actually grabbing some votes from the much approval starved opposition. Not pushing in the direction that could bring positive change.

Milei is more a curiosity that a contender. The starving will go on voting those who starve them. Their numbers growing by the minute.

The inflation has halved my worth twice and then twice again. Not much left by now.
Am so upset that you don’t see me here more often. Grown quiet sick of this shit. No improvement in sight. Published devaluation is nothing compared to street facts.

Cops would say “move on, nothing to watch here!”

Got better chances of getting elected myself.

0-0


Nicky, my heart goes out to you and to all Argentinians caught up in this situation. In spite of the former antipathy between the UK and your country, I've never met an Argentine that I did't get on with well - mind you, that's only four, but how many living near you have met someone from the part of the world where I live?
 
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SUPERMAN RAISES HIS FICTIONAL HEAD AGAIN

Yesterday I posted the terrific news that previously-purple Louisiana had elected a supermajority, “hard-right” state government, and that previously-socialist Argentina had elected a very colorful “far-right” libertarian. It was all-around great news.

But it wasn’t great enough for some folks, who remained depressed.

The complaints about Argentina’s new “right wing” president being a secret WEF stooge or undercover mole even grumbled into the C&C comments. I won’t call anyone out, because I love you all, but some folks more unfairly dismissed Louisiana’s entire Republican state government as a bunch of do-nothing RINOs who won’t ever change anything.

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

And I thought, wow, these deep-state psyops are incredibly powerful. They even penetrated the skeptical, sarcastic narrative armor that we’ve carefully built around C&C. Obviously, we can put good news right in front of people’s faces — but they’ll still follow the deep state’s emotional manipulation and get even more depressed.

So today I will walk you through the logic. Again! To gently correct those who’ve lost their way. To prepare the rest of you to gently persuade friends and relatives this holiday season. And to counteract the sinister deep state programming robbing everybody of joy and hope.

Missing the Point

Some folks badly missed the point yesterday. The good news wasn’t that some guy named Javier Milei was elected president of Argentina. Forget about Javier’s WEF connection, there are other reasons to doubt him if you want to. For one, the guy looks and sounds, well, kind of nuts. Possibly unstable. I mean, just look:
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So why would we celebrate Javier Milei’s presidency? We don’t even know him. He might be a WEF mole. Or he could just be a chainsaw-wielding lunatic. Who knows? So it’s not Javier.

The good news was that millions of previous socialism-loving people in Argentina just voted for chainsaw guy over more socialists.

The good news was about regular Argentinians, not about Javier Milei. The people have changed. There is a new non-socialist spirit loose in Argentina! A new spirit among millions of regular folks who are definitely not WEF moles. The sea change in their thinking was the good news. Argentinians are — finally! — sick of the socialists; so sick they’ll even try Javier Milei, the only guy crazy enough to run as a conservative this cycle.

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I spent a month in Argentina back in 1990 and loved it. I would happily go again! Inflation was terrible even back then. The exchange rate changed so fast that people held onto dollars and only changed what they needed that moment.
 
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Milei is more a curiosity that a contender. The starving will go on voting those who starve them. Their numbers growing by the minute.

The inflation has halved my worth twice and then twice again. Not much left by now.
Am so upset that you don’t see me here more often. Grown quiet sick of this shit. No improvement in sight. Published devaluation is nothing compared to street facts.

Cops would say “move on, nothing to watch here!”

Got better chances of getting elected myself.

0-0



Oopps. Eek

Why that jibe? You might show some compassion for a member in a ruinous situation not of his making.


Nicky is my friend > maybe I should have used a different emoji > Razz

It was strictly based on the pick surprise and not the misgivings in Argentina.
My understand this (election) is a positive move but then again I don't live there and only time will tell.
Always the best wishes for Nicky and everyone there.
 
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President Milei is looking good. Our kind of guy!



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Milei speaks and Argentina waits
By Silvio Canto, Jr.

There are two things that no one would have predicted on July 1st. First, that the Texas Rangers would win the World Series on Bruce Bochy's first season back from retirement. Second, no one in Argentina thought that Javier Milei would be sworn in as President. Well, the Rangers are champs and Javier Milei won a landslide election.

Down in Buenos Aires, President Milei addressed his country for the first time. He did not hold back:

"The Argentines have overwhelmingly expressed a will for change that has no return. Today we are burying decades of failure and senseless disputes," he declared.

Most Argentines agree, but the question is: how does he do it? The new president gave us an idea with the speech:

The new president's speech mixed a doom-laden assessment of the state of play with claims that freedom and liberty would lead Argentina to prosperity. Milei said he was sure that his path is the only way forward.

"At the beginning of the 20th century we were the beacon of light of the West. We received millions of immigrants escaping from a devastated Europe. But then the impoverishing ideas of collectivism were embraced and for more than 100 years politicians have insisted on defending a model of poverty, stagnation and misery," said Milei.

However, "that model has failed," he declared, calling his election "a turning point in our history."

Milei sought to highlight Argentina's economic decline. Inflation has hit almost 140 percent year-on-year and today, 40 percent of the population lives in poverty.

"Much has been said about the inheritance we are going to receive. Let me be very clear: no government has received a worse inheritance than the one we are receiving" he analysed.

Highlighting that strict austerity measures were imminent, Milei said that the "solution" to economic decline "implies a fiscal adjustment in the national public sector of 5 points of GDP that will fall entirely on the state and not on the public sector."

Warming to his theme, he warned that Argentina would face an annual inflation rate of "15,000 percent" unless it took action.

"The outgoing government has left us with hyperinflation," Milei said. "There is no alternative solution to adjustment."

"All the shock programmes, except the one in 1959, were successful," he said confidently. "Gradualism requires financing."

"There is no money," he declared to applause and chanting from supporters.

"The only way to escape poverty is more freedom," Milei told the nation.

"We know that all is not lost. It will not be easy. One-hundred years of failure cannot be undone in a day, but one day we begin, and today is that day," the president declared to applause.

I heard portions of the speech in Spanish and his demeanor was assertive but realistic. His line about there is no money got the loudest applause. It's obvious that many agree because all they have are inflated and worthless pesos.

The new president does not have a majority in Congress. His party has 40 of the 257 seats in the Chamber of Deputies and 7 of 72 senators. The Peronist opposition has 105 deputies and 33 senators. That will present a few hurdles.

What President Milei does have is a landslide election and people fed up with their economic situation. So we will watch what lies ahead because the future of Argentina is on the line.

https://www.americanthinker.co...argentina_waits.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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This man's making a lot of enemies. Hope he has great security protection.

Javier Milei Takes Office in Argentina, and His First Move Immediately Triggers All the Right People

By Bonchie | 9:09 AM on December 11, 2023

For the first time in decades, Argentina is no longer ruled by socialists. Libertarian-leaning President Javier Milei was officially sworn in on Sunday, marking a major turning point in the country's battle against hyperinflation and economic decline.

In November, Argentina reached 183 percent inflation for 2023, impoverishing around 40 percent of the country, a reality that helped sweep Milei into power. Now, he's taking action, with his first move in office being an executive order that slashes the number of government ministries from 21 to nine. Among those put on the chopping block was the ministry of "women, genders, and diversity," a move he recently telegraphed in his criticisms of "social justice."

It didn't take long for the hand-wringing to begin in the press. PBS News published an article dripping with sanctimony, claiming that Milei's ideas are "outlandish" and "radical." What makes that so ironic is that the very same article admits that Argentina is in dire straits.

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South America's second largest economy is suffering 143 percent annual inflation, the currency has plunged and four in 10 Argentines are impoverished. The nation has a yawning fiscal deficit, a trade deficit of $43 billion, plus a daunting $45 billion debt to the International Monetary Fund, with $10.6 billion due to the multilateral and private creditors by April.

(...)

Argentines disillusioned with the economic status quo proved receptive to an outsider's outlandish ideas to remedy their woes and transform the nation.


Let's play this out. Argentina is in the midst of an economic collapse in which its central bank has inflated the currency by triple digits in the last year, and the nation still has no money to pay its international debts. Yet, it's "outlandish" to cut spending and try to tame inflation?

I'd be curious if PBS News ever described the former socialist regime's policies as "outlandish" as they destroyed Argentina's economy and sent nearly half of its residents into poverty. Somehow, I doubt they did.

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Still, there are signs that Milei has not given up his radical plans to dismantle the state. Already he has said he will eliminate multiple ministries, including those of culture, environment, women, and science and technology. He wants to meld the ministries of social development, labor and education together under a single ministry of human capital.


Is it radical to "dismantle" a state apparatus that has completely failed the people it is meant to represent? I'd suggest that's the farthest thing from radical. Rather, it strikes me as common sense. What would be radical is continuing to do what brought Argentina to the brink of collapse (and perhaps past it).

Still, Milei will face opposition. Aside from the press, his moves are triggering the unions as well.

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Still, he is likely to encounter fierce opposition from the Peronist movement's lawmakers and the unions it controls, whose members have said they refuse to lose wages.


That sounds familiar, doesn't it? Argentina's economy has been driven off a cliff, and the very people who did the driving want to make sure they suffer no consequences. It's going to be a tough haul, and Milei may yet fail simply because of the structural barriers holding necessary change, but I hope he does everything he can to bust the union cartels up.

Argentines have a choice. They can let Milei do the hard work and return their nation to prominence in the long term, or they can turn tail and run back to the socialists the moment things get difficult. Hopefully, they are smart enough to do the former.


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