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More than 1,000 international students have had visas or legal status revoked

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April 28, 2025, 05:21 AM
downtownv
More than 1,000 international students have had visas or legal status revoked
More than 1,000 international students have had visas or legal status revoked
Associated Press Education Writer, Annie Ma, Tuesday, Sept., 13, 2022, in Washington. (AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — More than 1,000 international students have had their visas or legal status revoked in recent weeks, and several have filed lawsuits against the Trump administration, arguing the government denied them due process when it suddenly took away their permission to be in the U.S.

The actions by the federal government to terminate students’ legal status have left hundreds of scholars at risk of detention and deportation. Their schools range from private universities like Harvard and Stanford to large public institutions like the University of Maryland and Ohio State University to some small liberal arts colleges.

At least 1,024 students at 160 colleges, universities and university systems have had their visas revoked or their legal status terminated since late March, according to an Associated Press review of university statements, correspondence with school officials and court records.



In lawsuits against the Department of Homeland Security, students have argued the government lacked justification to cancel their visa or terminate their legal status.


https://apnews.com/article/f1-...0c205503c1178e70f1d5


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April 28, 2025, 06:45 AM
MikeinNC
Good-now go home.




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April 28, 2025, 06:54 AM
bob ramberg
I think they could have waited until the end of the school year. That's only a month away.


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April 28, 2025, 06:59 AM
trapper189
What happened on Tuesday, Sept. 13, 2022?

The article in the OP is from April 18, 2025 and apparently did not last long according to this article from April 25, 2025:

Trump administration backs down on terminating thousands of student visa records


The Trump administration unexpectedly reversed course on terminating the student visa registrations of thousands of foreign students in the U.S., a government lawyer said in federal court on Friday.

Appearing before the federal district court in Washington, D.C., a Justice Department attorney said more than 4,700 students would have their student visa records reinstated, according to attorney Brian Green, who represents a plaintiff in one of the dozens of lawsuits challenging the registration terminations.

Those students had been affected by a mass termination of records in a government student visa system, known as SEVIS, administered by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The effort appeared to have targeted foreign students with minor legal infractions, some of which had been dismissed, according to court documents.

The cancellation triggered concerns among students that they could face deportation, as well as a flurry of legal challenges.

The Trump administration was sued dozens of times over the visa cancellations across the country, and judges have almost unanimously sided with the students. Last week, an Atlanta federal judge ordered the government to reinstate 133 student statuses on the SEVIS system that had been terminated this month.

The Trump administration said it would maintain or re-activate the SEVIS records of those affected by terminations, until ICE finalizes a policy that will govern such cancellations in the future, according to a copy of the Justice Department attorney's statement shared by Green. The statement said SEVIS registrations would not be altered "solely based" on the criminal history checks that resulted in the recent record cancellations.

But ICE will retain its authority to revoke the SEVIS registration of any individual who fails to maintain their visa status or who commits crimes that make them deportable under U.S. immigration law.

"ICE is developing a policy that will provide a framework for SEVIS record terminations. Until such a policy is issued, the SEVIS records for plaintiff(s) in this case (and other similarly situated plaintiffs) will remain Active or shall be re-activated if not currently active and ICE will not modify the record solely based on the NCIC finding that resulted in the recent SEVIS record termination," the Justice Department attorney said in his statement in court on Friday.

"ICE maintains the authority to terminate a SEVIS record for other reasons, such as if the plaintiff fails to maintain his or her nonimmigrant status after the record is reactivated or engages in other unlawful activity that would render him or her removable from the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act," the attorney added.


In a statement Friday, Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin said the administration has "not reversed course on a single visa revocation."

"What we did is restore SEVIS access for people who had not had their visa revoked," she added.

CBS News also reached out to representatives for the Department of State for further clarity on Friday's announcement. While ICE oversees the SEVIS record database, the State Department is responsible for granting — and revoking — the visas that allow foreign students to enter the U.S.

Rather than fight the cancellations in court, some students have self-deported, including one Cornell University student who participated in pro-Palestinian protests on campus and had his visa revoked.
April 28, 2025, 08:52 AM
downtownv
Back in the early 80's I knew 2 Iranian "Students." They attended 1 course in a community college, per semester and had "Student" visas.
This is so widely abused, again, we are a joke! Not to mention how many times have we read about a foreign student stealing secrets and sending them back to their home government?


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April 28, 2025, 12:00 PM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by bob ramberg:
I think they could have waited until the end of the school year. That's only a month away.

That would've been the easiest, then refuse entry once they depart the country. Expand and enforce the guidelines, particularly as it applies to issues around political incitement, participation and organizing.

Anybody know of the existing student visa rules...do they need to reapply after each school year? Is this handled or initiated by the school itself?
April 28, 2025, 12:11 PM
Rey HRH
I've always thought it peculiar that I've worked with many co-workers, usually from China, who started out as students. Then they get themselves sponsored by an employer and they're pretty much here long term. Nice people, they were friendly to me. But that's just an observation. Maybe I still remember the series The Americans.



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April 28, 2025, 12:26 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:

Back in the early 80's I knew 2 Iranian "Students." They attended 1 course in a community college, per semester and had "Student" visas.
This is so widely abused, again, we are a joke!
1999, my wife and I were this close to buying a large flight school in Macon, GA. They sold training, from zero-time through ATP (Airline Transport Pilot) for somewhere around thirty-five thousand dollars, pre-paid.

A close examination of the books revealed that they were really in the business of selling student visas. A significant portion of the trainees were in the U.S. on student visas, obtained by (or with the help of) the flight school.

The Germans and British students were serious about the training; they were here because flight training was much more affordable in the U.S. than in their home countries.

However, there were a lot of middle eastern "students" here on student visas, who showed up for training maybe once every month or two, just barely enough to keep their student visas active. The rest of the time they worked at businesses owned by family members.

That revelation, plus some shady income tax manipulation by the owner (seller) of the flight school, prompted our decision not to buy the business.



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April 28, 2025, 01:07 PM
radioman
quote:
But ICE will retain its authority to revoke the SEVIS registration of any individual who fails to maintain their visa status or who commits crimes that make them deportable under U.S. immigration law.


that sounds reasonable. If they commit crimes then GTFO. If they are here to learn, then let them learn.

We have students who study overseas and some overseas students come here --- everyone generally benefits.


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May 02, 2025, 07:41 AM
AUTiger89
Sorry, but that's a drop in the bucket. Keep at it x1000.




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May 02, 2025, 10:07 AM
Tailhook 84
quote:
Originally posted by AUTiger89:
Sorry, but that's a drop in the bucket. Keep at it x1000.

I was just wondering what percentage 1000 foreign students are to the total number of foreign students in this country. A small drop in a very large pool is probably the right answer.




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May 05, 2025, 08:47 AM
Glynn863
When my younger son graduated in Civil Engineering a few years ago, about 45% of his graduating class were foreign students, and about 90% of those were from Red China. I commented about this, and he said they seemed to be on an intel-gathering mission while in school. They were always taking photos of everything at the university, in particular equipment and processes. And the faculty would allow them to "collaborate" on assignments and exams, due to the "language barrier".

When I graduated from college, I think there were less than a dozen foreign students, and almost all were from Canada or Central / South America.
May 05, 2025, 06:25 PM
808
Some have been causing more problems than others.

Former Lehigh student pleads no contest in admission deception case
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area.
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Former Lehigh student pleads no contest in admission deception case
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area...9b-7d430f40689e.html


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May 05, 2025, 11:01 PM
Rightwire
I once coached at a very large university, very competitive to get in, and stay in. I recall being involved in a conversation around cost per credit hour and how that impacts admissions. These are not the actual dollar amounts, I filtered them for simple understanding.

Cost per Credit Hour
$100 - In state, local student
$150 - In state student (add room & board)
$250 - Student from any of other 49 states (add room & board)
$500-$800 - Foreign student (add room & board)*
*CCCP pays for Chinese students full tuition, lodging, food, etc.

The University makes 5-8x more admitting foreign students over local students. That weighs heavily in admissions consideration. College is a business.

I have no issue with the Federal government limiting the number of foreign students allowed to attend American colleges so our kids have a fair shot at being admitted, especially if those foreign students return to their home countries with knowledge gained here.




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