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March 07, 2019, 11:30 PM
rburg
I got to see socialism up close
My mother is 98 1/2 and lives in a nursing facility. Good so far. But her legs are giving out and the electric cart I bought for her isn't getting it done. They won't allow her to take it into the dining room. So my wife informed me I just spent $6200 for an electric wheelchair. Again, OK. So one of the nurses aids came and tried to take her "manual" wheelchair.

When she yelled "hey, where are you going with that?" Her response was "you don't need it". So bad legs or not she took her walker and chased the girl down the hall. Got to the elevator and told the girl to put it back. And again she was told she didn't need it. But lucky for my mother, the building manager was there and heard that part of the exchange.

So the now pissed off aide put the thing back where it was. Its not really about need or anything much else, its about need, not property rights.

I'm not even sure my mother has become that immobile. Get her pissed off enough and she almost sprints down the hall.

And I fear this is what the Democrats in congress want.


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March 08, 2019, 05:22 AM
Shaql
Wait, so they took a wheelchair that she owns because she has a second one?





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March 08, 2019, 05:29 AM
TBH
Good for her! Too bad she wasn’t packing...


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March 08, 2019, 06:10 AM
David Lee
quote:
Originally posted by TBH:
Good for her! Too bad she wasn’t packing...
Yeah ! Big Grin. 98 1/2, bless her heart. I've heard sometimes the people in those homes are not too nice to the residents. They need to learn to be.
March 08, 2019, 06:25 AM
Bassamatic
98 1/2?? Holy smokes! Good for her.

Yeah, it sounds like this was all about that certain aide and not the philosophy of the establishment.



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March 08, 2019, 06:32 AM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by rburg:
My mother is 98 1/2 and lives in a nursing facility. Good so far. But her legs are giving out and the electric cart I bought for her isn't getting it done. They won't allow her to take it into the dining room. So my wife informed me I just spent $6200 for an electric wheelchair. Again, OK. So one of the nurses aids came and tried to take her "manual" wheelchair.

When she yelled "hey, where are you going with that?" Her response was "you don't need it". So bad legs or not she took her walker and chased the girl down the hall. Got to the elevator and told the girl to put it back. And again she was told she didn't need it. But lucky for my mother, the building manager was there and heard that part of the exchange.

So the now pissed off aide put the thing back where it was. Its not really about need or anything much else, its about need, not property rights.

I'm not even sure my mother has become that immobile. Get her pissed off enough and she almost sprints down the hall.

And I fear this is what the Democrats in congress want.

The doctor explained it pretty well in this video. "Same thing here.....Same principle, I mean". Big Grin



Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCGGXaMANys


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March 08, 2019, 06:51 AM
Ozarkwoods
She probably was going to sell it! I wonder how many others she had done that to? I would be talking with the nursing home administrator to get an explanation.


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March 08, 2019, 07:38 AM
MagicHorse
I'd also let management know you don't want that particular aide anywhere near your Mom or her stuff.
March 08, 2019, 07:57 AM
Broadside
I’d call the police and report it as an attempted theft.
March 08, 2019, 07:59 AM
arfmel
I see that as attempted theft from/robbery of an elderly person. Maybe a felony, depending on the value of the wheelchair.
March 08, 2019, 08:27 AM
mr kablammo
Raskolnikov lives! Do not keep cash in her room!


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March 08, 2019, 08:42 AM
smschulz
Sorry for the incident but I'm a little slow so tell me how this links to socialism? Confused
March 08, 2019, 08:49 AM
Crom
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Sorry for the incident but I'm a little slow so tell me how this links to socialism? Confused

Person in authority sees you have something, judges it as "more than you need" and assumes the right to take it.


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March 08, 2019, 09:24 AM
rusbro
I think it's common for nursing homes to have wheelchairs that they own, and provide to the residents as needed. Once my parents provided a wheelchair that we owned to a grandparent in a home, but we marked on the back of it in big letters that is was "property of" my grandparent.

Is it possible the employee thought the chair was the property of the facility?
March 08, 2019, 09:50 AM
irreverent
I don’t know, but maybe an electric several thousand dollar wheelchair might stand out as different than the standard issue.

Unless that aide had specific instructions from a higher up, I spect she shouldn’t be removing things from resident’s rooms.


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March 08, 2019, 10:15 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by irreverent:

I don’t know, but maybe an electric several thousand dollar wheelchair might stand out as different than the standard issue.
Did you miss the part, in the original post, where rburg said that after his mother got a new electric wheelchair, the aide tried to take the old standard type (not electric) chair?



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March 08, 2019, 10:18 AM
irreverent
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by irreverent:

I don’t know, but maybe an electric several thousand dollar wheelchair might stand out as different than the standard issue.
Did you miss the part, in the original post, where rburg said that after his mother got a new electric wheelchair, the aide tried to take the old standard type (not electric) chair?


No you’re absolutely right I missed that-my mistake!

I still stand by my comment that unless specifically directed, staff shouldn’t be removing anything from anyone’s rooms.


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March 08, 2019, 10:39 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Sorry for the incident but I'm a little slow so tell me how this links to socialism? Confused

Socialism is theft.
It's about as simple as that.
Either you believe in private property, or you believe that it's OK to take from those you think have more than others.

quote:
I got to see socialism up close

The OP makes a valid observation.
In this nursing facility the nurses aids have a certain amount of power. They are younger and stronger and they have access to the rooms of the patients. Power tends to corrupt.

Under socialism, power is concentrated in the hands of a few who tend to exert their power and authority to benefit themselves first.

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March 08, 2019, 12:30 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:

Socialism is theft . . . In this nursing facility the nurses aids have a certain amount of power. They are younger and stronger and they have access to the rooms of the patients.
I was incarcerated in a live-in rehab facility for a month and a half, after surgery to repair a hip fracture.

I had no problem with staff (other than getting their attention when needed), but I did have a problem with an elderly patient with dementia, who was wandering the halls at night, un-monitored (against policy). She broke into my room on more than one occasion. The call button did not bring any staff to respond, so I called 911. That got the staff's attention!



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March 08, 2019, 01:08 PM
GWbiker
quote:
Originally posted by mr kablammo:
Raskolnikov lives! Do not keep cash in her room!


Or anything valuable and that goes for Hospitals, too. If you go in for surgery or an extended say, leave the valuable at home.


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