https://www.boston.com/news/tr...as-drunk-police-say/

Lovely, just what you want traveling in an aluminum tube.

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Originally posted by spunk639:
https://www.boston.com/news/tr...as-drunk-police-say/

Lovely, just what you want traveling in an aluminum tube.

I haven't been on a plane since 2017 and I probably won't get on another anytime soon.
This just reinforces my decision.

1995 was the last time I flew and definitely not in any hurry to do such again.

I love flying and do it at least 4 times a year, sometimes 6.

I'll continue on. This is an isolated incident and doesn't worry me in the slightest.

Besides, I don't fly el cheapo airlines.

Florida Man . . .

He was in pretty bad shape. Security footage from right before the incident is Here

Checks and balances worked as the pilot was removed from cockpit PRIOR to flying.

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Originally posted by DaveL:
He was in pretty bad shape. Security footage from right before the incident is Here

Back in the day Adam Corrolla and Jimmy Kimmell hosted The Man Show and did a drunk pilot bit (starts at 7:21):

The limit is 0.04? Hmmmm that means a 180 lb man could have a double whisky within an hour of flying and still pilot the plane?

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
The limit is 0.04? Hmmmm that means a 180 lb man could have a double whisky within an hour of flying and still pilot the plane?

Evidently. I checked the net and it seems to be true, that's what the FAA stipulates.

I would imagine the airlines themselves have a no tolerance policy on pilots drinking, though.

The FARs also prohibit alcohol consumption within 8 hours of being on duty. So no that 180 pound pilot could not legally drink a double whiskey within an hour of reporting for duty. At my company .02 would get you removed from the trip and most likely disciplined. .04 is the FAR limit and will definitely get you a violation. Plus, a lot of municipalities and other countries have local laws that cover this as well with specified charges for blowing above certain levels.

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1995 was the last time I flew and definitely not in any hurry to do such again.

my "Last Date" was about 1994, due to claustrophobia settling deeply into my frontal lobes...and other ...."incidents" in the news those days...

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
The limit is 0.04? Hmmmm that means a 180 lb man could have a double whisky within an hour of flying and still pilot the plane?

Evidently. I checked the net and it seems to be true, that's what the FAA stipulates.

I would imagine the airlines themselves have a no tolerance policy on pilots drinking, though.

This surprised me too, given what is on the line I am surprised that anything other than a 0.00 is tolerated at all. It's seriously ok to have a pilot at the controls of a sophisticate aircraft, operating at half the legal limit to drive???

The limit is .04 but there is an 8 hour "bottle to throttle" FAR and many companies that are 12 hours.

If this is the pilot that said he hadn't drank since the night before, he's probably avoiding a prima facie violation of the 8 or 12 hours.

Now... average alcohol elimination is .019/hour per a cohort study involving apprehended drivers, so to be a .04 at go time, you theoretically needed to be a .20 8 hours before (sort of, since the .019/hr starts after you reach the post-absorptive phase, but let's just call that accurate).

OK, so he claims he was drunk the night before, and showed up to work 8 hours after stopping, sorta slept it off, but not entirely, woke up and went to work a little drunk.

For the theoretical 180 lb man, 10 drinks in an hour will put him around .20 such that after 8 hours he's still 0.04. Give or take his weight. quitting time, and processing speed, it's close to a 375 bottle of 80 proof liquor in one hour, 8 hours prior.

Yeah, the 8 hrs bottle to throttle is the real limitation. Unless you are completely wrecked exactly 8 hrs prior it’s hard to be in violation if you stop at 8-12hrs.

If you make the assumption that he didn't consume anything 8 hrs before the flight and still blew a 0.04, he has serious problem.

If he drank in that window, he still has a slightly different but related problem.

Either way, this guy needs a serious re-think on his decision making processes.

It's not like anyone was expecting him to fly that jetliner in the inverse position.

Not just Jet Blue. Pilots & flight attendants get pulled due to reasonable suspicion all the time. Co-workers see them acting funny, report them, they get pulled and must give the BAT and the urine drug test right away. I haven't seen one pass the BAT.