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It filed today (Sunday) in bankruptcy court in Delaware. Creditors going to take over running it in exchange for debt forgiveness. Hope this isn’t the tip of the iceberg for more of the industry.


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Not knowing the Remington details but lots of companies emerge from bankruptcy.
 
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As previously announced https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...780096734#1780096734




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When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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As previously announced https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...780096734#1780096734


Did a search. Didn’t come up.


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The new owners will probably sell off the pieces bit by bit, to try and maximize value. This is likely not a bad thing, as a few iconic brands might end up with companies that want to run them properly.

While the industry is under pressure, Remington's problems are lagely of their own making.
 
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That thread froma month and half ago doesn’t announce that it did happen, just that it was being prepared. Little different.


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That thread froma month and half ago doesn’t announce that it did happen, just that it was being prepared. Little different.


Exactly. It was an announcement that it would file, about 6 weeks ago.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Remmys been circling the toilet bowel with a couple of logs for awhile.

Not surprising that people stopped buying their shit, I mean firearms. 700 trigger and R51 fiascos to name a few.

I wouldn’t take their stuff for free, other than to sell / trade it off.

Adios, maybe they get their shit together in the end. Maybe not.
 
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They need new ownership to cut the fat, drop the sales distributor model and re-focus on product. If they have to go full boutique, go for it; do what you got you to the party, precision rifles.
 
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Let us hope that Marlin passes into the hands of an entity that knows what the hell they’re doing, at least in terms of how to manufacture lever action rifles. Remington did terribly.




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The names seem to live on, manufacturers do change though. I’m not a big Remmy fan though I do have two customized rifles and an 870 I took in trade.

I do wish them well, after the turmoil.
 
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This is less about the health of the gun industry and more about vulture capitalists who suck the profits out of viable companies and replace them with a mountain of debt.
 
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This is less about the health of the gun industry and more about vulture capitalists who suck the profits out of viable companies and replace them with a mountain of debt.


Debt can be a huge problem, both for individuals and for companies. But every transaction has two sides. If you don't like the terms, don't take the money.

Certainly, if you are running a company struggling with sales because your quality has declined, don't load up on debt:

The company's chief financial officer, Stephen Jackson, said in court papers that Remington's sales fell significantly in the year before its bankruptcy, and that the company was having difficulty meeting requirements from its lenders.

Remington, America's oldest gunmaker, announced in February it would reduce its $950 million debtload in a deal that will transfer control of the company to creditors. The company plans to wrap up its bankruptcy as soon as May 3, according to court papers.



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I noticed the media is publicizing Remington's bankruptcy more widely today, and implying that it is a result of the "March against gun violence".
They want to show they are having an effect.


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^^^
I noticed that too...
The Florida school shooting and the "March against gun violence" have absolutely nothing to do with the Remington situation.

Media engaged in blatant anti-gun propaganda.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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I noticed the media is publicizing Remington's bankruptcy more widely today, and implying that it is a result of the "March against gun violence".
They want to show they are having an effect.


Yeah, I glanced at some headlines implying the bullshit of the gun industry suffering because of the marches. Give me a break Roll Eyes



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Let us hope that Marlin passes into the hands of an entity that knows what the hell they’re doing, at least in terms of how to manufacture lever action rifles. Remington did terribly.


Ruger is the logical recipient here when you consider the, seemingly, natural synergy of lever action rifles and Ruger’s single action and revolver offerings. I asked the CEO once (about 5-6 years ago) if lever action rifles were in their future plans and I got a very quick and very certain “No.”. Maybe now the price and time is right??


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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Let us hope that Marlin passes into the hands of an entity that knows what the hell they’re doing, at least in terms of how to manufacture lever action rifles. Remington did terribly.


Ruger is the logical recipient here when you consider the, seemingly, natural synergy of lever action rifles and Ruger’s single action and revolver offerings. I asked the CEO once (about 5-6 years ago) if lever action rifles were in their future plans and I got a very quick and very certain “No.”. Maybe now the price and time is right??


Ruger would be an excellent choice; the good thing for them is that the machinery to manufacture them is all fairly new CNC equipment. Tracking down all the highly skilled artisans that actually knew how to build Marlin lever actions would be my first step. Remington kicked so many knowledgeable craftsmen to the curb and the product line suffered immensely as a result.

Although I would hate to see Marlins stop being American made, I would not lose much sleep if Japan started making them...Winchester and Browning products have shown that they could do so successfully.




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Just a guess, but I would say you will be able to buy a Turkish made Marlin fairly soon.


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Remington's quality is crap these days. I've shipped two cases of 38 special back due to squibs, and I recently compared a Mossberg side by side with a similar model Remington. The Rem looked like crap by comparison, I bought the Mossberg.
 
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