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Winchester Model 12 - Help Needed

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November 28, 2022, 09:31 AM
WERA49
Winchester Model 12 - Help Needed
I just bought a 1924 Winchester Model 12. It needs a recoil pad, but the furniture has been replaced.

I don't know if the replacement is the old style stock or updated stock.

Who here has dimensions of a Model 12 recoil pad?


Rob
NRA Life Member
November 28, 2022, 09:37 AM
bigwagon
Your best bet is to have a gunsmith install a cut to fit pad.
November 28, 2022, 10:04 AM
architect
I have an circa-early-50's mod. 12, I don't know if this is new style or old, but the butt plate is 5 1/8" x 1 9/16"
November 28, 2022, 12:00 PM
arfmel
quote:
Your best bet is to have a gunsmith install a cut to fit pad.


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November 28, 2022, 12:21 PM
Anush
If you do not care about having an original pad. Measure the stock butt & go to Brownells or Midway & find a rubber pad. The pads available will have dimensions. If you have a bench grinder, attached the pad which should be slightly oversized. Mask the stock with regular masking tape. When you hit the tape with the wheel it will just leave a mark on the tape, not the stock. Of course replace the tape & continue.


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November 28, 2022, 12:35 PM
6guns
Order one for each of the different stock sizes, install the right one and return the other.




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November 28, 2022, 07:01 PM
armored
I have, and shoot my Grandfathers old Mdl.12. Made about the same year as yours.
Whenever I need service on the gun I send it off to Simmons, they really know the Mdl. 12.
Just remove the butt stock and send it in.

https://simmonsguns.com/

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November 28, 2022, 07:07 PM
JohnO
+1 on Simmons... they have worked on model 12's for more than 50 years
November 28, 2022, 11:01 PM
Kept Bum
I have an original Bakelite Winchester but plate taken from a gun about the time frame that you mention. If I could help, let me know.

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November 29, 2022, 12:26 AM
WERA49
Everyone, thank you for the information.

The stock measures 4.8" X 1.8". A thin recoil pad would be perfect. I may fit a universal recoil pad and sand it down.

I still don't know if the stock is the original pattern, but it won't matter for the DIY style recoil pad.


Rob
NRA Life Member
November 29, 2022, 12:28 AM
WERA49
quote:
Originally posted by Kept Bum:
I have an original Bakelite Winchester but plate taken from a gun about the time frame that you mention. If I could help, let me know.


Sir, do you mind making a pencil trace on paper and uploading it? If it's not to much to ask, please include the basic dimensions.

Thank you!


Rob
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November 29, 2022, 10:59 PM
Kept Bum
Will do that tomorrow 11/30. Is your e-mail address on your profile?

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November 30, 2022, 08:29 AM
slabsides45
If I recall correctly, Limbsaver has a template you can download from their FAQ section. Print that out and compare which size is closest to your shotgun butt. Even if you don't want their pad, it may state that this size pad fits XYZ brand butts as well, which lets you know what currently manufactured brands have the same size (for shopping and comparison purposes). Hope that makes sense, no coffee yet this am...


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November 30, 2022, 11:53 AM
Kept Bum


Here's the drawing/pic of butt plate. (Hope it comes through!)

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November 30, 2022, 12:15 PM
WERA49
Sir, the image didn't work. ImageBam has free image hosting. After uploading to that site, a link will be shown. Please post that link.

https://www.imagebam.com/


Rob
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November 30, 2022, 12:17 PM
parabellum
I tried to embed the image but it won't work. Click here:

https://a4.pbase.com/o12/14/48...uttplateIMG_1090.jpg
November 30, 2022, 01:28 PM
WERA49
Thank you Kept Bum and Parabellum.

My stock measures 1.8" X 4.8". It is definitely an aftermarket / custom stock. Unfortunately, that causes problems due to the unusual recoil pad size and shape.


Rob
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November 30, 2022, 03:17 PM
reflex/deflex 64
Brownells sells W logo pads kinda red orange rubber.

I recently picked up a 1953 model with a decayed pad on it. Also replacement wood as well a base model dressed up as a skeet model.


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November 30, 2022, 06:06 PM
lyman
white line pads (cannot remember the old name, Pachmayr sells them now) were the go to,


here is a chart that may help

https://www.lymanproducts.com/recoil-pad.html



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November 30, 2022, 10:45 PM
WERA49
quote:
Originally posted by armored:
Whenever I need service on the gun I send it off to Simmons, they really know the Mdl. 12.
Just remove the butt stock and send it in.

https://simmonsguns.com/

I just sent them an email and this image. I don't have a bench grinder or the fixture to hold the recoil pad.

This is the closest LimbSaver template that I could find from the PDF.
https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEH5CYN


Rob
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