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semi-reformed sailor |
I’d like to see the warrant. Giving the judge two points of fact 1. from the “suspect” having been tracked to DC during the timeframe 2. and the female having the same clothing does meet the threshold of PC for me....for a warrant. How about this, go knock on their door and talk to them too see if they might not be the bad guys you think they are. If they are then hold them and seek a warrant for a search.... If I were the judge who they went to for the warrant I’d want someone back in front of me explaining things... But maybe there is more to it that the media doesn’t have or know...again I’d like to see the warrant and affidavit. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Perhaps the judge should be under suspicion as well; why assume the corruption is contained at the agent level? The judge could be playing lose for the left as well. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
Wait, what? . | |||
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Yes. ATF ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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They must have thought they were raiding the Branch Davidians again. | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Interesting times we're living in. More interesting times we're headed for.
Yeah, caught my eye, too. But even on this very forum, people use the word "fitment" when they mean "fit." Still, the imagine of a bunch of feds busting in the door shouting "Thou shalt not kill! Thou shalt not steal! Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's manservant!" did make me giggle a bit.  ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
They should have refused to answer ANY questions. Not even give their name. Why? If you give inaccurate information to an FBI agent, not an overt lie, simply inaccurate information, that alone is a federal felony. I used to think the world of the FBI; but after Ruby Ridge, Waco, Hillary and her crew's crimes, LTG Flynn, and more I won't list, I consider them lower than million year old benthic worm shit at the bottom of the Marianna's Trench. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
Given the nature of the story, it seems like Commandment #9 could have been barked back at the FBI: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" . | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
FRCP 41(f) (f) Executing and Returning the Warrant. (1) Warrant to Search for and Seize a Person or Property. (A) Noting the Time. The officer executing the warrant must enter on it the exact date and time it was executed. (B) Inventory. An officer present during the execution of the warrant must prepare and verify an inventory of any property seized. The officer must do so in the presence of another officer and the person from whom, or from whose premises, the property was taken. If either one is not present, the officer must prepare and verify the inventory in the presence of at least one other credible person. In a case involving the seizure of electronic storage media or the seizure or copying of electronically stored information, the inventory may be limited to describing the physical storage media that were seized or copied. The officer may retain a copy of the electronically stored information that was seized or copied. (C) Receipt. The officer executing the warrant must give a copy of the warrant and a receipt for the property taken to the person from whom, or from whose premises, the property was taken or leave a copy of the warrant and receipt at the place where the officer took the property. For a warrant to use remote access to search electronic storage media and seize or copy electronically stored information, the officer must make reasonable efforts to serve a copy of the warrant and receipt on the person whose property was searched or who possessed the information that was seized or copied. Service may be accomplished by any means, including electronic means, reasonably calculated to reach that person. (D) Return. The officer executing the warrant must promptly return it—together with a copy of the inventory—to the magistrate judge designated on the warrant. The officer may do so by reliable electronic means. The judge must, on request, give a copy of the inventory to the person from whom, or from whose premises, the property was taken and to the applicant for the warrant. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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| blame canada |
I completely agree. This latest offense in my back yard has only intensified my opinion of them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Nakatomi Plaza? ____________________ | |||
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| blame canada |
Follow up article this morning: https://alaskawatchman.com/202...dJW53Pwbd1Plkd0r6T_k
I've been screaming this message for a while to our local Borough Mayor, Charlie Pierce. We need Borough Sheriffs around here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Anyone else notice a pattern here ? People being persecuted simply for attending a conservative rally , defending their property , or speaking out against this illegitimate administration . | |||
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And I have my doubts about that Judge too . | |||
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| blame canada |
Judge isn't very well-liked in Alaska. He comes out of California... Judge Matthew Scoble signed the no-knock warrant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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| The Whack-Job Whisperer  |
I noticed that.  But if you are BLM or Antifa you can riot, loot and try to burn Federal Courthouses with impunity.7+1 Rounds of hope and change | |||
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And if You are Antifa or BLM and get arrested the Left law makers in Washington have contributed to a slush fund to arrange for your bail. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/...inals-kamala-harris/ 'BAD GUYS' Black Lives Matter bail fund supported by Kamala Harris ‘helped free six men accused of domestic violence in two months’ _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Objection! Assuming fact not in evidence. To wit: That the ATF ever had much credibility to lose in the first place. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Over ruled- facts not in evidence hasn’t stopped the claims of “no knock” warrants even after a request was made for a cite. Completely acceptable. | |||
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| The Whack-Job Whisperer |
I would want to see what the Agents gave the Judge that constituted the probable cause to approve the search warrant. The photo of the woman in a similar coat? From "social media"? The fact that the couple was in D.C. when Skeletors laptop was stolen? If so, then there are many more suspects, I would presume. All pretty thin reasons to issue a search warrant. And back in the day, when we served a search warrant on a suspect, the first thing we did (after securing the premises) was slap a copy of the search warrant on them. Not later. Not in due time. Right the fuck now. And God help you if anything in the search warrant was not correct and verifiable. I know of two officers who screwed the pooch on search warrants - one was good police and was thrown under the bus by a politically motivated superior who saw an opportunity by doing so. The other officer........would have made a good FBI Agent. Both lost their careers. Justifiably, in one case, IMO. But I won't sit up at night waiting for anything to happen to the Agents in THIS case. God help this Country. Regards 18DAI 7+1 Rounds of hope and change | |||
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